Posted on 05/20/2009 6:55:16 PM PDT by Sergeant Tim
Me thinks that Liberals(the DU crowd) have been infiltrating Free Republic for a very long time now.
I think the moderators know this, are paranoid of such.
But there are certain FReepers with a prejudicial attitude towards cops and rush to judgment.
I suspect some FReepers have CAUSE/BAD TASTE in their mouths over cops that abuse their positions.
Maybe so. But why judge all cops based on an unpleasant experience. Hey I had some nasty girlfriends in my life but I don’t think every woman, or even most are nasty.
Bad comparison.
You haven’t met my ex girlfriends......
Sergeant Tim. Check this out.
Yep, that’s right.
You endorse kicking a man in the face when he is down.
That’s all we need to know.
...may it never happen to you.
“You endorse kicking a man in the face when he is down.
That’s all we need to know.”
You sir, are a liar and a Troll. You are a liberal and your comments here are for no other purpose other than sewing discord.
I already answered your above lying statement. Where have I ever endorsed kicking a man when he is down? The sole purpose of such a statement is to divert from my original intent and to create discord, as the name woolly suggests.
I will be on the lookout for your future posts and will notify the moderator that we have a troll if you continue to post just to cause divisiveness.
Winstons Julia. Check this out.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/1039/stop-protecting-the-jihadists
“Stop Protecting the Jihadists”
SNIPPET: “Confidential informants like the one who brought down the would-be Bronx synagogue attackers have saved countless lives. So why are American Islamic organizations working to sabotage them?”
by Steven Emerson
Written for The Daily Beast
May 22, 2009
SNIPPET: “Note: This article originally appeared on the website The Daily Beast. Click here to see the original.
Just when threats of terrorism had seemingly disappeared from the radar screen, Americans woke up Thursday morning to hear the news about four radical Muslims who plotted to bomb two synagogues in New York and shoot down a military plane using a Stinger missile. Fortunately, the FBI had infiltrated the plotters from the very beginning with a confidential informant who learned of the plan from an Afghan-born Muslim.
Prosecutors say the suspects obtained what they believed was a live Stinger missile and three improvised explosive devices with C-4 explosive. “While the weapons provided to the defendants by the cooperating witness were fake, the defendants thought they were absolutely real,” said acting United States attorney Lev Dassin in a prepared statement.
Their intention was to punish America for killing Muslims in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The plotters identified two Jewish institutions in the Bronx to blow up using the C-4 plastic explosives and then planned on shooting down a military plane at a nearby military air base.
The virulent hatred for Jews was manifested in a statement made by the accused ringleader, James Cromitie. After lamenting that the “best target”—the World Trade Center—was no longer available, Cromitie spoke of killing Jews: “I hate those motherfuckers, those fucking Jewish bastards…I would like to [destroy] a synagogue.”
As the plot developed and the would-be jihadists carried out surveillance, photographing synagogues and Jewish centers, the official FBI complaint released last night stated that “Cromitie pointed to people walking on the street in the vicinity of a Jewish Community Center and said if he had a gun, he would shoot each one in the head.”
But Jews were not the only target. The complaint says the accused terrorists wanted to destroy American aircraft at a military base using missiles. According to the FBI document, would-be terrorist Onta Williams said the U.S. military “are killing brothers and sisters in Muslim countries so if we kill them here with IEDs and Stingers, it is equal.”
There are several lessons that the U.S. government and public should finally learn from this plot.”
Seems the snitch had a pretty shaky background...
Still though...all perceived threats need to be taken seriously until proven otherwise. Right?
I've been here since 2000...never been called a troll before!
I'm sorta honored!
Now, would you like for me to go back to your posts and SHOW you where you openly declared that police SHOULD lay hands and FEET of perps and that anyone who doesn't endorse that is an, as you called them...”arse wipe”?
Here it is for you...your words...
“Secondly, if more of the public applauded and SUPPORTED the Police when they do lay their hands (or their feet) and reserve their criticism for the perp who breaks the law, perhaps perps will think twice before they endanger the public and act like the arse wipes they are.”
I guess I'm not the liar that you claim!
Before you go whining to the mods, at least have your facts straight, and make sure you're not making personal attacks. And for what it's worth, you have the terms wrong...it is usually leftists who endorse a police state.
oh...and BTW, it's “sowing”...not “sewing”
good day
Let's see....
MY COMMENT- “Secondly, if more of the public applauded and SUPPORTED the Police when they do lay their hands (or their feet) and reserve their criticism for the perp who breaks the law, perhaps perps will think twice before they endanger the public and act like the arse wipes they are.”
YOUR TRANSLATION OF MY COMMENT- “You endorse kicking a man in the face when he is down.
That’s all we need to know.”
Now do I really need to explain the difference between the two comments? Oh yes, I'm speaking with ‘woolly’ so I guess I have to....
When a PERP who is an obvious danger to others winds up getting ONE slap or one KICK by a cop when said PERP DOES NOT COMPLY with said cop's LAWFUL ORDER maybe, just maybe, said PERP will think twice before endangering the public again!
Your translation of my comment implies that I happily endorse ‘kicking a man when he is down’. That PERP may have been physically and literally DOWN on the ground, but he did not follow the cops order.
Your comment also implies that this was some poor guy, ‘down and out’ and some thug cop (a term you used) comes along and kicks the poor guy when he is down.
You seem to have a problem with me using the term ‘arse-wipe’ in describing this gang banging thug. But you have no problem using the term ‘thug’ to describe the cop.
What does that say about you?
BTW, since we're pointing out grammatical errors and typos...it's troll, not toll
Good night.
Update:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2609897/posts
“Four Men Found Guilty in Manhattan Federal Court of Plotting to Bomb Synagogue and....”
JUSTICE.gov/usao/nys - Press Release ^ | October 18, 2010 | n/a
Posted on October 18, 2010 2:08:34 PM PDT by Cindy
NOTE The following text (minus the phone number) is a quote:
www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/2011/three-men-each-sentenced-in-manhattan-federal-court-to-25-years-in-prison-for-plotting-to-bomb-bronx-synagogues-and-shoot-down-u.s.-military-planes
to 25 Years in Prison for Plotting to Bomb Bronx Synagogues and Shoot Down U.S. Military Planes
U.S. Attorney’s Office
Southern District of New York
June 29, 2011
PREET BHARARA, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, announced that JAMES CROMITIE, DAVID WILLIAMS, and ONTA WILLIAMS, were each sentenced today to 25 years in prison for plotting to bomb synagogues in the Riverdale section of the Bronx, New York, and to use Stinger surface-to-air guided missiles to shoot down military planes located at the New York Air National Guard Base at Stewart Airport in Newburgh, New York. The defendants were convicted in October 2010 after a two-month jury trial. United States District Judge COLLEEN McMAHON, presided over the trial and imposed today’s sentences.
Manhattan U.S. Attorney PREET BHARARA said: “James Cromitie, David Williams, and Onta Williams voluntarily agreed to target synagogues and military planes using what they thought were real bombs and missiles. As reflected in the sentences imposed by Judge McMahon, these were extremely serious crimes that targeted New York and its citizens. Today’s sentences ensure that the defendants will be punished for their actions.”
According to the evidence presented at trial and other documents and proceedings in this case:
In June 2008, an informant working with the FBI was approached by CROMITIE in Newburgh, New York. CROMITIE explained to the informant that his parents had lived in Afghanistan and that he was upset about the war there. CROMITIE expressed interest in returning to Afghanistan and said that if he were to die a martyr, he would go to “paradise.” He also expressed an interest in doing “something to America.”
The following month, CROMITIE and the informant discussed Jaish-e-Mohammed, a Pakistan-based designated Foreign Terrorist Organization, with which the informant claimed to be involved. CROMITIE stated that he would be interested in joining the organization to “do jihad.”
During further meetings with the informant, CROMITIE, DAVID WILLIAMS, ONTA WILLIAMS, and a fourth defendant, LAGUERRE PAYEN, discussed their desire to attack certain targets in New York, including synagogues in the Bronx and military aircraft located at the Air National Guard Base in Newburgh, New York. CROMITIE asked the informant to supply surface-to-air guided missiles and explosives for the planned operations. The informant responded that he could provide CROMITIE with C-4 plastic explosives.
After CROMITIE, DAVID WILLIAMS, ONTA WILLIAMS, and PAYEN selected the synagogues they intended to target and conducted surveillance of military planes at the Air National Guard Base, CROMITIE, DAVID WILLIAMS, and PAYEN drove with the informant toward Stamford, Connecticut, to obtain what the defendants believed would be a surface-to-air guided missile system and three improvised explosive devices (“IEDs“) containing C-4 plastic explosive material. The informant provided the defendants with a Stinger surface-to-air guided missile provided by the FBI that was not capable of being fired, telling the defendants that he had obtained it from Jaish-e-Mohammed. The informant also provided three IEDs that each contained over 30 pounds of inert C-4 plastic explosives, again telling the defendants that he had obtained them from Jaish-e-Mohammed. CROMITIE, DAVID WILLIAMS, and PAYEN transported these weapons back to Newburgh.
Two days later, CROMITIE, DAVID WILLIAMS, ONTA WILLIAMS, and PAYEN met to inspect the “missile system” and the “explosive devices” and to further discuss the logistics of the operation. Law enforcement officers arrested the four men on May 20, 2009, as they took active steps to carry out the operation.
CROMITIE, DAVID WILLIAMS, and ONTA WILLIAMS, were each found guilty of one count of conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction within the United States, three counts of attempting to use weapons of mass destruction within the United States, one count of conspiracy to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles, one count of attempting to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles, and one count of conspiracy to kill officers and employees of the United States. CROMITIE and DAVID WILLIAMS were also found guilty of one count of attempting to kill officers and employees of the United States.
* * *
In addition to the prison terms, CROMITIE, 45, DAVID WILLIAMS, 30, and ONTA WILLIAMS, 35, all of Newburgh, New York, were each sentenced by Judge McMAHON to five years of supervised release. CROMITIE and DAVID WILLIAMS were each ordered to pay an $800 special assessment. ONTA WILLIAMS was ordered to pay a $700 special assesment.
LAGUERRE PAYEN was also convicted in October 2010 after the jury trial. He will be sentenced at a later date.
Mr. BHARARA praised the FBI’s New York Joint Terrorism Task Force—which principally consists of agents of the FBI and detectives of the New York City Police Department—the New York State Police, and the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations for their extraordinary work in the investigation of this case. He also thanked the National Security Division of the U.S. Department of Justice for its assistance in the case.
This case is being handled by the Office’s Terrorism and International Narcotics Unit. Assistant U.S. Attorneys DAVID RASKIN, JASON P.W. HALPERIN, and ADAM HICKEY are in charge of the prosecution.
NOTE The following text is a quote:
www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/2011/laguerre-payen-sentenced-in-manhattan-federal-court-to-25-years-in-prison-for-plotting-to-bomb-bronx-synagogues-and-shoot-down-u.s.-military-planes
Laguerre Payen Sentenced in Manhattan Federal Court to 25 Years in Prison for Plotting to Bomb Bronx Synagogues and Shoot Down U.S. Military Planes
U.S. Attorney’s Office
September 07, 2011
PREET BHARARA, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, announced that LAGUERRE PAYEN was sentenced today to 25 years in prison for plotting to bomb synagogues in the Riverdale section of the Bronx, New York, and to use Stinger surface-to-air guided missiles to shoot down military planes located at the New York Air National Guard Base at Stewart Airport in Newburgh, New York. PAYEN was convicted along with his three co-defendants JAMES CROMITIE, DAVID WILLIAMS, and ONTA WILLIAMS in October 2010 after a two-month jury trial. United States District Judge COLLEEN McMAHON, presided over the trial and imposed today’s sentence.
Manhattan U.S. Attorney PREET BHARARA said: “Laguerre Payen was a willing participant in a plot to use bombs and missiles to target New York synagogues and U.S. military planes. Although these weapons were fake, the defendant believed they were real, and today’s sentence underscores the gravity of these crimes.”
According to the evidence presented at trial and other documents and proceedings in this case:
In June 2008, an informant working with the FBI was approached by CROMITIE, in Newburgh, New York. CROMITIE explained to the informant that his parents had lived in Afghanistan and that he was upset about the war there. CROMITIE expressed interest in returning to Afghanistan and said that if he were to die a martyr, he would go to “paradise.” He also expressed an interest in doing “something to America.”
The following month, CROMITIE and the informant discussed Jaish-e-Mohammed, a Pakistan-based designated foreign terrorist organization, with which the informant claimed to be involved. CROMITIE stated that he would be interested in joining the organization to “do jihad.”
During further meetings with the informant, CROMITIE, PAYEN, DAVID WILLIAMS, and ONTA WILLIAMS discussed their desire to attack certain targets in New York, including synagogues in the Bronx and military aircraft located at the Air National Guard Base in Newburgh, New York. CROMITIE asked the informant to supply surface-to-air guided missiles and explosives for the planned operations. The informant responded that he could provide CROMITIE with C-4 plastic explosives.
After CROMITIE, PAYEN, DAVID WILLIAMS, and ONTA WILLIAMS selected the synagogues they intended to target and conducted surveillance of military planes at the Air National Guard Base, CROMITIE, PAYEN, and DAVID WILLIAMS drove with the informant toward Stamford, Connecticut, to obtain what the defendants believed would be a surface-to-air guided missile system and three improvised explosive devices (“IEDs”) containing C-4 plastic explosive material. The informant provided the defendants with a Stinger surface-to-air guided missile provided by the FBI that was not capable of being fired, telling the defendants that he had obtained it from Jaish-e-Mohammed. The informant also provided three IEDs that each contained over 30 pounds of inert C-4 plastic explosives, again telling the defendants that he had obtained them from Jaish-e-Mohammed. CROMITIE, PAYEN, and DAVID WILLIAMS transported these weapons back to Newburgh on May 6, 2009.
Two days later, CROMITIE, PAYEN, DAVID WILLIAMS, and ONTA WILLIAMS met to inspect the “missile system” and the “explosive devices” and to further discuss the logistics of the operation. On May 13, 2009, they returned to Stamford, Connecticut, and picked up another Stinger missile. Law enforcement officers arrested the four men on May 20, 2009, right after they planted the IEDs outside of two synagogues in Riverdale.
PAYEN, CROMITIE, DAVID WILLIAMS, and ONTA WILLIAMS were each found guilty by a jury of one count of conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction within the United States, three counts of attempting to use weapons of mass destruction within the United States, one count of conspiracy to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles, one count of attempting to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles, and one count of conspiracy to kill officers and employees of the United States. CROMITIE and DAVID WILLIAMS were also found guilty by a jury of one count of attempting to kill officers and employees of the United States.
In addition to the prison term, Judge McMAHON sentenced, PAYEN, 29, of Newburgh, New York, to five years of supervised release and ordered him to pay a $700 special assessment fee.
CROMITIE, DAVID WILLIAMS, and ONTA WILLIAMS, were sentenced to 25 years in prison on June 29, 2011.
Mr. BHARARA praised the FBI’s New York Joint Terrorism Task Force—which principally consists of agents of the FBI and detectives of the New York City Police Department—the New York State Police, and the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations for their extraordinary work in the investigation of this case. He also thanked the National Security Division of the U.S. Department of Justice for its assistance in the case.
This case is being handled by the Office’s Terrorism and International Narcotics Unit. Assistant U.S. Attorneys DAVID RASKIN, JASON P.W. HALPERIN, and ADAM HICKEY are in charge of the prosecution.
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