Posted on 05/21/2009 5:57:28 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
That is exactly right. McCain did so willingly. Obama will not. And that is the crux of the matter. HE WILL NOT and no one can make him. I HATE this soooo much.
No one at "Justice" wanted a fed investigation of Obama. No one at the highest levels of our governement wants a fed investigation.
Ask BUBBA, indeed.
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Here is a good place to present the ideas listed above:
http://www.libertyaction.org/305/petition.asp?PID=21008407&NID=1
I believe that Obama’s lawyers made reference to the fact that Obama had posted his birth certificate on his campaign website in one or more of their legal responses to the various eligibility lawsuits. If that is so, then it directly connects Obama to the fraud. He cannot use that claim as a legal defense and also claim that he had no knowledge of it. The two are mutually exclusive. He was advised by legal counsel on the issue and consented to its inclusion in his legal defense.
I believe the references were made in footnotes and were not submitted as direct evidence but I also believe that point may be irrelevant.
You make an incorrect assumption. Standing was an issue in that case. Hollander could not demonstrate damages caused to him through the intentional and specific actions of John McCain.
"I think" is enough to start an investigation, if there are credible reasons that "I think", a crime has been committed.
Proving the crime has been committed is a job for prosecutors, not policemen. Policemen can of course help the prosecutor by conducting investigations, serving warrents to obtain evidence, and so forth.
Your link was excellent! Thanks for posting it.
You are very welcome.
Why would these non profits not look into this? The other problem is someone has to have asked already.
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You are right on with this one. Don’t they have an ACLU for us? All of a sudden, all these so called rights activists have disappeared into the woodwork. The only ones left are us teabaggers!
A few weeks ago, I think it was something I read by the “Oath Keepers”, saying that they had all the evidence needed for the 10 amendment violations, aside from the breaches in the other amendments. They had a big name Constitutional Attorney who took the class action case. The higher courts told them they had no case to pursue.
It turned my stomach. Do we have no outlet?
I’m going to view the links offered & see what I can find.
Thanks OOO
Lots of good info in this thread so far. Lets hope a few more chime in with information concerning what type of legal actions we can take against our elected officials for abandoning their duties.
Yes I agree. I’m viewing all the links that people have provided. I just can’t believe the mass corruption. I’m still up for calling in another country to help us with our tyrannical govt.
“I’m still up for calling in another country to help us with our tyrannical govt.”
Hay — at this point — I’m up for whatever works.
Maybe the Canadian ‘Mounties’ can rescue us!
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/index-eng.htm
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I’ll take anybody at this point, that is of course except other radicals! Thanks for the agreement, I was worried the thread might get pulled!
I don't want to get bogged down on this. One of my examples was the attempted bombing in New York.
I am in full agreement that given enough credible evidence, an investigation can ensue. But let's turn that around.
An informant alerted law enforcement that these guys had the intent to commit a crime. Had law enforcement decided these guys were full of it, they could just as easily have walked away and if the crime then happened, we would be wringing our hands and asking why no one investigated and why nothing was done to stop them...which was exactly what happened on 9/11.
All the credible evidence in the world was at their fingertips, but they blew it...because Bill Clinton, via Jamie Gorelic, made it next to impossible for law enforcement or anyone else to complete enough of a proper investigation to stop it.
That seems to be what is happening now. Aside from the COLB, there is enough wrongdoing on the part of Barack Obama to impeach him. NO ONE will even try it. We all see the law being flaunted in America's face every damn day.
Nancy Pelosi should have been brought up on charges for conspiring with the PKK to stop our military from being resupplied though Turkey. It was blatant treason. BUT NO ONE DID ANYTHING.
There are example after example of lawlessness throughout our government that are so blatant, half of them should be in jail and the other half should face a firing squad.
Geithner was confirmed in spite of his flagrant tax cheating. Sotomayer will be confirmed in spite of her flagrant disregard of the Constitution.
There is no one looking out for us inside the government. It is like another world that they have created and live in with no regard for the consequences to We the People. It is surreal to watch this happen in front of our eyes. We see it, we feel it. And yet it goes on and on like some insane nightmare we can't seem to wake up from. We are all caught up in it.
Our military is being deliberately weakened and their brainwashing began years ago. They train to "respect" cultures unworthy of respect.
WE are brainwashed into believing that the OFFICE of the Presidency deserves our respect, and by extension, the person who occupies it. The OFFICE is a Constitutional construct. It isn't a building or a man. If we respect the OFFICE, we had better go to the mattresses to save it because the MAN is unworthy of our respect and I don't care what name he goes by.
I have asked people I trust how, in the midst of all this insanity, do we manage to stay sane? And if we are sane, how do we combat this insanity? Because that is what it is.
Then I am reminded that before the world was plunged headfirst into WWII, the same conditions existed on the ground and around the world. Mad leaders with heavy propaganda machines like the one that is building here. Entire populations yearning for a saviour. The people under control ravaging those who resisted. NONE of it happened overnight. NONE of it was under cover of darkness. The world saw it and did nothing.
Nothing we do is going to change what has become our reality as long as we depend on the insane to do anything sane. There has got to be a plan and we have to prepare ourselves for the absolute worst we can imagine because anything we can imagine can happen while we are waiting for an answer that never comes.
This government isn't ours anymore. We need to shut it down and reset it big time.
Protests need to be more than symbolic. We have to make it so difficult for them to govern that they are thrown off stride. Technology has overtaken us. This megamachine is moving forward at a pace too quickly to sit around trying to figure out which legal maneuver we have at our disposal to defeat it. The only way to stop a machine is to pull the plug or disable it.
The legal remedy is written in the Constitution. We are facing TYRANNY.
I am going to end this because I feel like I am chasing my tail and afraid, yes, afraid, that I will say more than I should.
I have a 17 month old baby girl. THAT counts. FREEDOM counts. HERS is paramount to mine. And that's IT!!!
they lose CREDIBILITY.
Publicly is the key! This way your rep has to do it or he/she loses face. Better yet, publicly tell the rep to produce it or he/she will be voted out. This way the entire state is in on it.
But offering money would probably make people a little more serious about it.
I don’t know Uncle Sham, but we need to do something!
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Here’s the info you are looking for.
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