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NYC police: Terror suspects wanted to commit jihad
Associated Press ^ | May 21, 2009

Posted on 05/21/2009 9:00:29 AM PDT by presidio9

Four men arrested after planting what they thought were explosives near two synagogues and plotting to shoot down a military plane were bent on carrying out a holy war against America, authorities said Thursday.

The suspects were arrested Wednesday night, shortly after planting a 37-pound mock explosive device in the trunk of a car outside the Riverdale Temple and two mock bombs in the backseat of a car outside the Riverdale Jewish Center, another synagogue a few blocks away, authorities said.

Police blocked their escape with an 18-wheel truck, smashing their tinted SUV windows and apprehending the unarmed suspects.

At a news conference outside the Riverdale Jewish Center in the Bronx, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly quoted one of the men as saying, "If Jews were killed in this attack ... that would be all right."

James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen, all of Newburgh, were charged with conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction within the United States and conspiracy to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles, the U.S. attorney's office said.

"They stated that they wanted to commit jihad," Kelly said. "They were disturbed about what happened in Afghanistan and Pakistan, that Muslims were being killed."

Kelly said he believed the men knew each other through prison. They had long rap sheets for charges including drug possession and assault.

An official told The Associated Press that three of the men are converts to Islam. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to discuss details of the investigation. Three of the defendants are U.S. citizens and one is of Haitian descent, officials said.

Payen occasionally attended a Newburgh mosque. His statements on Islam often had to be corrected, according to Assistant Imam Hamin Rashada,

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crimaliens; immigration; jihad; nyc1target; religionofpeace; terrorists

1 posted on 05/21/2009 9:00:29 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
plotting to shoot down a military plane

They were going to use a .50cal armor piercing/incendiary/gauss/faster than light round.

/s

2 posted on 05/21/2009 9:04:03 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: presidio9
"holy war"

no charge for the fixing of that for ya.
3 posted on 05/21/2009 9:10:01 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: presidio9

Just some American Negroes ,who converted over to the religion of hate ,run by Farrakhan, while in prison.

There are thousands of them in America’s prisons. They arent Muslims, just racist blacks who want to kill whitey,whether he is Jewish or Catholic, it doesnt really matter. Ignorant people can be talked into anything when they are brought hating “The Man”


4 posted on 05/21/2009 9:16:41 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: presidio9
But, Islam is a religion of peace! And Jihad is a personal inner struggle! So where do these numbskulls get these terrorist ideas from? Could it be from actually READING the Koran?

Lets have a little look-see:

Qur'an:2:216 "Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not." [Another translation reads:] "Warfare is ordained for you."

Hmmm, I don't see "inner struggle" there. Maybe I'm just reading it wrong. Lets look at another Sura:

Qur'an:4:95 "Not equal are those believers who sit at home and receive no injurious hurt, and those who strive hard, fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause with their wealth and lives. Allah has granted a rank higher to those who strive hard, fighting Jihad with their wealth and bodies to those who sit (at home). Unto each has Allah promised good, but He prefers Jihadists who strive hard and fight above those who sit home. He has distinguished his fighters with a huge reward."

I'm reading that those who sit home and do the "personal struggle jihad" (ie playing nintendo games) are not thought of very highly by the mighty rock, Allah.
Lets see what Mohammad says about it:

Bukhari:V1B2N25 "Allah's Apostle was asked, 'What is the best deed?' He replied, 'To believe in Allah and His Apostle Muhammad.' The questioner then asked, 'What is the next best in goodness?' He replied, 'To participate in Jihad, religious fighting in Allah's Cause.'"

Religious fighting for Allah's cause. What's Allahs cause...

Bukhari:V4B52N196 "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say,"None has the right to be worshipped but Allah."'"

Seems Allah's cause is to convert the entire world to Islam. But how?

Qur'an:47:4 "So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."

By killing, wounding enslaving, kidnapping and ransoming, basically by using terrorism.

Qur'an:8:39 "So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam."

Why is this evil even allowed to be called a 'religion" and be practiced in this country?

practicing Islam ok, but don't you dare call a fag a homo.

5 posted on 05/21/2009 9:17:52 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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"There are thousands of them in America’s prisons. They arent Muslims, just racist blacks who want to kill whitey,whether he is Jewish or Catholic, it doesnt really matter. Ignorant people can be talked into anything when they are brought hating “The Man”"

No, they are every bit Muslim. They converted to Islam and are following the Koran to the letter. It may well be that they enjoy killing whitey, but infidels come in all colors. killing is just one of the tenants of Islam.

Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."

Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."

Ishaq:587 "Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."

Tabari IX:69 "He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter to us."

I wonder how the Imam "corrected" His statements on Islam.
"Payen, shut up! You don't say this stuff out loud, Islam are a religion of peace, remember?"

6 posted on 05/21/2009 9:31:43 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Venturer

American prisons are a breeding ground for hate and conversion to Islam, which leads to more hate. Thank God for great police work by the NYPD in preventing this terrorist act.


7 posted on 05/21/2009 9:52:45 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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As far as I am concerned, this is just further proof that Manhattan remains more likely to get hit again and again than the rest of the nation combined. It really pisses me off when I see anti-terrorism dollars going to places like Omaha when any fool knows that the terrorists will keep coming back here until NYC is a smoldering ruin.


8 posted on 05/21/2009 10:02:37 AM PDT by presidio9 ("a stable once had something inside it that was bigger than our whole world," -Lucy Pevensie)
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