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To: Ronaldus Magnus
You forgot to call him a RINO

Thank you for the reminder! John Kasich is a traitorous, back-stabbing, sell out of a *R-I-N-O* for his complete betrayal of our Second Amendment freedoms.

Same here Ronaldus. I'll never vote for him. I can be flexible on many issues but not on the 2nd Amendment, which actually helps protect the others. This was no 'workaround' or 'difference of opinion' - this was a direct violation of the Constitution/Bill of Rights. If Republicans can't stand up against attacks on such a crucial issue, they can easily sell us out on other issues as well, and, as we have seen, they have.

Kasich orchestrated the support to pass the assault weapons ban that, without him, was dead in the water, and the Dems wouldn't have that 'history' upon which they can now launch a similar ban. This was high treason.

51 posted on 05/22/2009 10:34:33 PM PDT by Kent C
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To: Kent C
"I can be flexible on many issues but not on the 2nd Amendment, which actually helps protect the others"

OK, totally independent of the Kasich discussion, I see people saying things like this on FR all the time and I'm fed up.

It's time we grew up and started being realistic about the 2nd Amendment. I support gun rights because there's no good reason law-abiding citizens SHOULDN'T be able to own guns to protect themselves from criminals. But people who have visions of a future armed uprising by gun-toting Americans against a tyrannical government are living in a fantasy world.

Not because our government could never become tyrannical, but because if it did, in the end the 2nd Amendment wouldn't make any difference.

This is 2009, not 1776. If Obama declares military-enforced Marxist Sharia law (or whatever seemingly half FR's membership have apparently become convinced is going to happen since last November), and comes rolling down your street in an Abrams tank, the 2nd Amendment is not going to do crap for you, unless you believe that the "arms" we have a right to keep and bear includes an Abrams tank of your own. Buy all the handguns and shotguns you want. Heck, keep an Uzi or two and an AR-15 under your bed. If it comes down to it a UAV can fire a missile through your window from a couple thousand feet up and that will be that.

When the constitution was written, the 2nd Amendment mattered as a safeguard against tyranny. Nowawdays, it's a minor speedbump to tyranny at best, assuming the tyrants are even moderately motivated and determined.

Allow me to reiterate: I SUPPORT THE 2ND AMENDMENT...because citizens should be able to own guns for personal protection against criminals. NOT because re-enacting Lexington and Concord is a viable plan for stopping the rise of a totalitarian regime in the United States.

52 posted on 05/22/2009 11:43:04 PM PDT by Dan Middleton
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