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Some journalists won't admit truth about Mexican 'crime gun' numbers
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 24 May, 2009 | David Codrea

Posted on 05/25/2009 5:30:38 AM PDT by marktwain

Readers who have been following my series on how Mexican crime is being exploited to promote more "gun control" edicts have been led step-by-step through the web of lies and corruption. I will recap for those just joining us:

What does 'Operation Southbound Steel' tell us about smuggling U.S. guns to Mexico?

Do 90% of Mexican 'crime guns' come from U.S.?

We're being lied to about U.S. guns and Mexican cartels. Why?

Do U.S. government arms exports play a part in arming Mexican cartels?

Exposing lies about U.S. guns and Mexican crime

Mexican warehouse exposes gun grabber cartel lies

The Mexican 'dog and pony show' on guns

U.S. 'gun control' not the answer to Mexican crime

Mexican prison break shows deeper problems than U.S. guns

More 'gun control' won't stop drug war corruption and violence

Having bothered to, you know, independently study and document this situation, I'll not give a pass when I see some shallow dilettante of an "authorized journalist" treat the matter with cavalier snark. Meet Todd Robberson (!), "Editorial Writer" for The Dallas Morning News:

"I guess it wasn't enough for the gun lobby that they successfully cowed Congress into submission and won approval (in a rider to a credit-card reform bill) for people to carry assault weapons into national parks. They now believe that the Mexicans are lying when they report that 90 percent of guns seized from Mexican drug cartels are traceable to U.S. sellers."

Yes, Todd, and with you being a "professional" journalist, and with much of this happening in your own back yard, for you not to know they are lying shows your "work" product to be either ignorant and lazy, or else...well. what other reasons could there be? That you do this for a major newspaper with the intent of affecting political opinions, and thus decisions, is--at best--inexcusably irresponsible.

It looks like my "at best" assumption is overly generous--this guy is a "true believer" of the first order:

The item I posted yesterday led to quite a response from readers, many of whom don't seem to understand the source of the "90 percent" figure cited for the weapons captured from the drug cartels. The source is the Mexican government, based on their actual capture statistics of traceable weapons from about 18,000 seized over the previous two years...

He's still trying to hang on to the last shred of credibility. He's so desperate to prove he knows what he's parroti...uh...talking about, he's even citing the Violence Policy Center. And he is, of course, completely missing the point--not that I think he really does, but he has to give the willfully deluded in his readership some bit of misdirection to hang on to.

Fortunately, the rest of the media seems to be waking up to what Todd refuses to. A Google "News" category search of the terms Mexico gun 90% reveals that, aside from an increasingly lonely and desperate opinion maker at The Dallas Morning News, their competition appears to be coming around to the truth.

From The Sun News:

The oft-repeated statistic that "more than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States" is not, in fact, what the government's records show.

From The Arizona Republic:

"The claim made by administration officials that 90 percent of the arms seized from the Mexican drug cartels came from the United States is not true," McCain said flatly.

From the El Paso Times:

More than 90 percent of about 11,000 guns tied to violence in Mexico's drug wars came from the United States, but those weapons were handpicked for tracing by Mexican authorities.

From Voice of America:

Initial claims that 90 percent of guns used by criminals in Mexico came from the United States turned out to be based on faulty data analysis.

What was Yul Brynner's line in The King and I? "Et cetera, et cetera..."

So I wonder if Robberson will finally come around, do the decent thing, and apologize to his readers? More likely, if he backs up an inch, it will be to "clarify" what he really meant, and then try to change the direction of the discussion by peppering us with more VPC "factoids."

And I wonder how that squares with what President and General Manager John McKeon meant when he spoke of "the value our readers place on the quality of our content" as he tried to explain away why his paper's circulation and profits have plummeted...?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; gun; mexico; mythof90percent; narcoterror; percent; wod
The sooner the MSM either dies or starts telling the truth, the better.
1 posted on 05/25/2009 5:30:38 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
The sooner the MSM either dies or starts telling the truth, the better.

You can start planning the funeral. After the 2012 elections it will probably be belly up for most of the commie “news” outlets, and the print version will be the first to go.

Taking the other tack, the communists will probably be so infuriated that their cult leader little zerø is kicked to the curb by that evil of evils (except when they win) the Electoral College. IF he is not impeached and booted after the mid-terms. That will sell the commie rags for about one or two months and then …

2 posted on 05/25/2009 5:48:20 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: marktwain

Please keep up the great work. A bunch of “good ol’ boys” I was talking to didn’t buy this crap at all. At least half of them were Democrat and wringing their caps in their hands.

The Rats are pushing too hard while thinking the “flyover states” will follow. They are wrong.


3 posted on 05/25/2009 6:03:49 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: marktwain

I will never forget walking into a liquor store in Nogales, Mexico and seeing for sale:

1)bricks of firecrackers
2)bullwhips
3)used handguns

Mexico has always had plenty of their own guns. That they come from US is all BS.


4 posted on 05/25/2009 7:35:25 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: marktwain; SwinneySwitch

bump


5 posted on 05/25/2009 8:19:11 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: CPT Clay
Obama, Hillary and DHS' Napolitano are willing dupes of the Mexican governemnt----dutifully reciting latino agit-prop that "the US is exporting guns to drug cartels."

As one savvy FReeper posted: " I've been attending gun shows for over 20 years and have yet to find the fully automatic weapons, rocket-propelled grenade launchers or anything beyond one-round-per-trigger-pull Mexican cartels are armed with (unavailable here without a license). "

"The truly sad fact never reported is that common Mexicans are deprived of firearms under their own laws - leaving the lawless, the corrupt and the government (and combinations of all three) the only ones armed. The drug cartels and their bought-off authorities would never have run roughshod over a citizenry empowered by a 2nd Amendment like ours. "

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Illegals on US soil are dual citizens who swear allegiance---first and foremost---to their home countries.

We need to see Obama, Rahm, Hillary and Janet's emails and cell phone records to determine when they get their orders from the Mexican government.

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The frauds just keep on a-coming.....thanks to the conniving Mexican government.

Cong TOM TANCREDO relates his conversation with Juan Hernandez (Hernandez was McC's Hispanic outreach rep). Hernandez is a dual citizen and headed the Mexican govt's **Ministry of Mexicans Living in the United States. ** Hernandez said the purpose of the Mexican govt agency was:

(1) to increase the flow of Mexican nationals to the US to serve Mexico’s needs;

(2) to increase transfers of $50 billion a year (30% of the Mexican GDP);

(3) to alleviate Mexican social instability, and,

(4) to get free training for Mexicans who are expected to repatriate the skills (paid for by US citizens) back to Mexico.

Hernandez supports amnesty. Hernandez told Tancredo: "By populating the US with millions of Hispanics who are tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, we are able to exert enormous influence and pressure on U.S. policy and its dealings with Mexico."

SOURCE http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33894

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Obama's treacherous plan to award US citizenship to illegals is a con game. Illegals are dual citizens, and swear allegiance to their home countries. THEY INTEND TO RETURN THERE----AFTER THEY DRAIN THE US TREASURY.

6 posted on 05/25/2009 11:40:04 AM PDT by Liz (Everything Obama says comes with an expiration date.)
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To: marktwain; NorwegianViking; Texas resident; GulfBreeze; rellimpank; AH_LiveRight; BGHater; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


7 posted on 05/26/2009 8:32:01 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (0bommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: marktwain
According to the ATF: In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced -- and of those, 90 percent -- 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover -- were found to have come from the U.S.

But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.

In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.

8 posted on 05/26/2009 12:15:29 PM PDT by La Lydia
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