Posted on 05/25/2009 10:12:39 AM PDT by blueyon
**My Comment: Timothy M. Kaine and gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe are "changeing" the facts to make it a story they can run with*
Liberty University officials insisted Friday that they revoked recognition of the College Democrats club for religious reasons and not political ones, and they weren’t trying to stifle free speech.
Politicians, including Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, urged the private school to reconsider. Using the letterhead of the Democratic National Committee, of which Kaine is chairman, he asked the school “to reverse this attack on the liberty of its students.”
LU chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr. said the political club’s standing wouldn’t be restored, however, because the club supports Democratic candidates who are pro-choice on abortion.
Meanwhile, newspaper readers raised questions about the school’s nonprofit status because it continues to allow a College Republican club on campus.
Two legal experts, one of them dean of the Liberty University School of Law, said perceptions of political bias don’t matter when a private school is defining its mission.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsadvance.com ...
Op-Ed: Media's misrepresention of club controversy May 25, 2009 : Jerry Falwell, Jr.
A number of media sources recently reported that Liberty University banned Democrats from meeting on campus. One headline erroneously read: “Democrats at Liberty University forced to meet off campus.” Apparently many journalists do not let the facts get in the way of a juicy, agenda-driven story.
http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=18495&MID=8373
The story was spun out of control from the beginning, when Terry McAuliffe, a Democratic gubernatorial candidate for Virginia, called a telephone press conference to talk about the College Democrat club formed by students of Liberty University. The presses began to buzz. Much of what went to print was wrong. Most journalists were interested in scooping their competitors rather than seeking the truth. Even when some reporters learned the facts, they could not bring themselves to correct their stories because the fanciful reports were just too tempting. **For the rest of Liberty response, please go to the link I posted in this comment section.
Yeah he’s a liar, and I know my university will not give in, however, IF he wants to go this route, why not CALL for all of the State and Private Universities which Discriminate against Republican Clubs STOP FIRST!!
This will be one battle Liberty can’t win. Even being right morally, they can’t win.
At a private educational institution, the school itself can judge who is and is not eligible for club status. BUT, if that school (”private,” “public,” it does NOT matter) accepts government funds of any type (Liberty accepts both VA State tuition assistance and Federal grants, student loans, etc) then that institution must dance to the tune the piper has called...
I wrote a column over 2 decades ago, in my college newspaper, criticizing Jerry Falwell for jumping thru government hoops so his school could get government funding. I said it would come back to haunt him. Well, rest his soul, it’s not haunting Jerry — but it IS haunting Liberty.
This is red meat for the pirahna’s and sharks aka Kaine, McAuliffe, and Democrats in general. They will not stop until they have cut off Liberty completely from state and federal funds. One cannot coexist with Liberals — one must surrender to them, or utterly defeat them. There is no “middle ground,” no room for negotiation or compromise.
isn’t that what some colleges have done to conservative student clubs?
Didnt Liberty win a lawsuit on that? Something that students taking grants or student loans did not mean liberty was taking federal money for purposes of then submitting to federal control on issues like this.
Someone mentioned that ruling the other day here.
While I think this was an unwise decision on Liberty’s part (even while they have every right to do so), Tim Kaine has a lot of nerve.
Just because he’s willing to compromise his own “personal” beliefs for political reasons doesn’t mean Liberty should have to.
Kaine is “personally pro-life” and “personally against the death penalty.”
But that’s never gotten in the way of his personal politics.
Liberty did not ban the group just the name “Liberty University” in the groups title. To think Democrats would lie. They are trying to stir up the masses (those that to not check for accuracy in what is being report) for votes, I bet!
These freaking Dems, so stupid.
Do they think we would allow a satanic cult club at a Christian School?
If they understood anything, they would realize that the Democrat Club is looked at the same as a satanic cult.
Why you may ask? (for non-religious) You are either with the Lord, or you stand against him. (there is no middle ground)
Liberty University is a private university, with an education mission that includes support of certain values, such as opposition to abortion.
“Separation of Church and state” does not require that a private university adopt an education mission sans religious values; it requires THE GOVERNMENT to be agnostic, that is neither an advocate of religious values, NOR an opponent of them.
Students attending Liberty University, under the “equal protection” clause are entitled to Federal Education support EQUALLY with students at education institutions whose missions and values favor abortion.
The government’s acceptance that abortion is not completely, not universally illegal, is that and nothing more. It cannot be a mandate that abortion must be accepted as “O.K.”, in a moral sense, by either individuals, educators or even medical practitioners who oppose it.
The legal “right” to obtain an abortion, if one chooses to obtain one, is not, and cannot be, a legal mandate that those who oppose it must agree, morally, or that they must assist.
The idea that those who oppose abortion cannot say so, and cannot limit their support, their private associations, to others who also oppose it, is nothing other than an attempt to freeze freedom of speech and democracy itself, and make illegal any process that might change the legal status quo. That attempt has nothing to do with “abortion rights” as they now stand. It is part and parcel of the radical legal notions that created Roe v Wade in the first place.
The great irony is how the Dems went to every college and university in the Commonwealth to recruit out-of-state students (blue staters) to register and vote for BHO in VA to tip VA’s electoral votes into the blue column.
You have explained well why I believe that acceptance of govt. aid by “faith-based” charities opens the door to disastrous Leftist sabotage and control of those organizations. Once again, we have George W. Bush (as in bank bailouts, Rx drug entitlements, etc.) to thank for getting the govt’s foot in the door, preparing the way for the likes of Obama.
Tim Kaine should urge public universities to invite conservatives to speak on campus
Since dozens of universities don’t allow ROTC don’t expect me to shed a tear anytime soon.
They can’t stand the fact that of the lie that they (and their media cohorts have been covering up) is pretty much blasted open, and shown in this move by Liberty University: The lie that there is no moral highground in Christians voting Republican (becuase of it’s ‘explicit’ support for the unborn, against homosexual marriage, and for life of the unborn in embroyonic stem cells): God may use this to ‘re-open’ the debate: Can a true Bible-Believing Christian vote for Democrats (which support the exact oppose of their overt worldview)?
They can’t stand the fact that of the lie that they (and their media cohorts have been covering up) is pretty much blasted open, and shown in this move by Liberty University: The lie that there is no moral highground in Christians voting Republican (becuase of it’s ‘explicit’ support for the unborn, against homosexual marriage, and for life of the unborn in embroyonic stem cells): God may use this to ‘re-open’ the debate: Can a true Bible-Believing Christian vote for Democrats (which support the exact oppose of their overt worldview)?
How does one explain 1/3 of Evanglical voters going for Clinton, or 50% of Catholics for Obama? I’ve read it’s the ‘minorities’ within those communities who tip the scales, but I really can’t understand a truly pro-life Baptist or pro-life Catholic voting for either Democrat simply because of their ethnicity or their ethnicity group’s block voting.
Because they don’t truely believe (post-modern), (or dont take the time to research their choice ‘my daddy, and my grand-daddy voted dem..’).
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