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Crisis spurs spike in 'suburban survivalists'
AP/Breitbart.com ^ | 5/25/09 | GILLIAN FLACCUS

Posted on 05/25/2009 6:45:48 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: goodnesswins

Good idea. One can’t be too careful these days. Unfortunately.


21 posted on 05/25/2009 8:27:06 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: goodnesswins
"But, good advice....get to KNOW your neighbors!!!"

...very much agreed! That will prevent misunderstandings in advance, if things get ugly and confusing. A lot of people plan for bad circumstances only to the extent of imagining shooting someone. They don't consider or learn about the terrible legal mess and other problems that can come after shooting someone, if they don't have the right kind of plans. Knowing your neighbors in advance might well help you and your neighbors to avoid being attacked to begin with or at least to avoid a terrible tragedy brought by a misunderstanding.


22 posted on 05/25/2009 8:29:47 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: waterhill
"You have a cistern? What are you, a Hick? lol...

I don’t have one, yet... I am jealous... you ROCK!
"

LOL! Well, yes. Being miles from the power grid, we need to either pump occasionally and store water in the cistern or pump frequently while storing electricity in batteries. ...cistern wins, with the cost being far lower. After building the house, we'll build a solar power plant for getting water from the deep well to the cistern (expensive).


23 posted on 05/25/2009 8:36:42 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Kartographer

In that entire article, not one mention of gold, guns or ammo.


24 posted on 05/25/2009 8:39:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ladyjane
"It’s okay to get to know your neighbors but be careful about your neighbors learning about you.

If you do all the work to prepare for an emergency and they don’t, it could mean trouble. Yes, they are nice people but if they get hungry...
"

IMO, just stock up with a few cases of brains.










25 posted on 05/25/2009 8:42:28 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Travis McGee

It was an AP reporter. Circumstances demand a “don’t ask, don’t tell” attitude especially in San Diego. I recall some fellow losing a few semi-auto rifles over the side while sailing near the west coast of Mexico. Rough seas and all that.

;>)


26 posted on 05/25/2009 8:47:00 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: familyop

That is cool!

I want to build one exclusively for rainwater harvesting from the house and barn ( metal roofs )... I am researching tanks at the moment ( concrete or fiberglass or polyethelyne ).... What are you using? Pm me if you like, I hate to hijack a thread...


27 posted on 05/25/2009 8:50:30 PM PDT by waterhill (My neighbors are cows...)
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To: GonzoGOP

I’ll end up having to defend my pacifist, peacenik neighbors whose cars are filled with hippie political stickers. It’s not that I’m friends with them, but they are my neighbors and that’s what neighbors do.


28 posted on 05/25/2009 8:54:35 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: familyop


Saiga 12 gauge with 20 round drum magazine. The perfect Zombi defense weapon...
29 posted on 05/25/2009 8:55:21 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Covenantor

That was no sea story.


30 posted on 05/25/2009 8:55:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Daffynition

I’m sure it looks JUST like that picture when you open the can.


31 posted on 05/25/2009 8:56:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: familyop

The danger to you all is if something happens, the first thing the City people do is “head for the hills”...

Beans, Bullets, Bandages, Blankets, Bibles....


32 posted on 05/25/2009 8:59:05 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: familyop
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33 posted on 05/25/2009 9:02:04 PM PDT by odin2008 (Everything in the universe is subject to change.)
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To: Travis McGee

That was no sea story

Of course not, but I sure as hell wouldn’t mention any such details to a reporter, AP or otherwise. Then again I would have suddenly lost my English comprehension at any questions at all from a MSM stenographer.


34 posted on 05/25/2009 9:04:19 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

Yep, he was just keeping good opsec, not showing the libtard reporter his arms locker.


35 posted on 05/25/2009 9:06:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Bean Counter
"The danger to you all is if something happens, the first thing the City people do is “head for the hills”..."

There's no such danger here. ...only one road from the big City that's 1 1/2 hours away and about 5,000 feet below--no side routes. And that road would be closed in such an event. Beyond that, we're country folks (beyond rural) on good ground surrounded by hundreds of miles of private roads and very few entrances to those.


36 posted on 05/25/2009 9:13:01 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: waterhill
"What are you using?"

I'm using a food-grade plastic tank, then a 1500-gallon concrete one very soon (probably the coming fall). ...will have to save a little for it, but it will be worthwhile.


37 posted on 05/25/2009 9:17:50 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Kozak
"Saiga 12 gauge with 20 round drum magazine. The perfect Zombi defense weapon..."

That's really slick. :-) Not being in any potentially target-rich environment, though, I don't have an excuse to buy one of those. :-( ...will have to be satisfied with the pumps (and big Brenneke slugs for the most likely bad guys out here, who haven't even been cooperative enough to be bad guys over the past decade...snobbish bruins...four-legged monsters won't even give me or livestock a second look). And the cougars refuse to be anything more than ghosts in the night. The coyotes are interesting at times, though.

And although all of the few neighbors in yurts, tepees, straw-bale houses and log houses also enjoy target practice with big bores (.44s, .45 Colts, .300 Win Mags, .338 Win Mags, 50-cals, etc. around here--windy with visibility for miles and miles), they won't be getting hungry. It would probably take them more than five years to munch down all of their goats, buffalo, yaks and greenhouse veggies. :-) You see, most of us are former techno-nerds (camera systems here and there), other former professionals (engineers, teachers, geologists, police, security consultants, lawyers, and the like). ...and open-range ranchers all around.


38 posted on 05/25/2009 9:43:39 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: ladyjane

“If you do all the work to prepare for an emergency and they don’t, it could mean trouble. Yes, they are nice people but if they get hungry...”

I agree I have a number of seedy neighbors now that I don’t trust and then add in the commin/pinko/red diaper babies who will think I should turn over everything and share like a good liberal! Makes me pause, yes you are right it would be hard to stand on your own especially if their a mobbers and such, but to pull the asses out of the fire that they started just galls me!


39 posted on 05/25/2009 9:43:58 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Question (& not rhetorical)... why would people feel they could be safe & just hunker down and somehow sit out unrest, hyperinflation, etc. in urban or suburban areas? Perhaps it depends on who is doing the maurroding...civilians or brownshirts?

Would it not be wiser to go either off the grid to some totally rural area or even to Canada or Alaska?

Thots?


40 posted on 05/25/2009 10:02:07 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If you think health care is expensive now, just wait till it is free PJ Orourke)
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