Posted on 05/28/2009 6:35:46 AM PDT by NYer
Catholic Ping
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Can’t the Church officially excommunicate Kmiec, so at least when he makes such ridiculous statememts, others have an easy retort to the MSM that he is not a Catholic?
Feminist see marriage as some type of shackle of oppression or bondage against women. Liberals don't want any government favorability to the institution of marriage and the so-called gay-marriage debate is just a Trojan horse to destroy the marital union altogether.
"Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices. Suppose one believed that human sacrifices were a necessary part of religious worship, would it be seriously contended that the civil government under which he lived could not interfere to prevent a sacrifice? Or if a wife religiously believed it was her duty to burn herself upon the funeral pile of her dead husband, would it be beyond the power of the civil government to prevent her carrying her belief into practice?
So here, as a law of the organization of society under the exclusive dominion of the United States, it is provided that plural marriages shall not be allowed. Can a man excuse his practices to the contrary because of his religious belief? [98 U.S. 145, 167] To permit this would be to make the professed doctrines of religious belief superior to the law of the land, and in effect to permit every citizen to become a law unto himself. Government could exist only in name under such circumstances."
I wouldn’t be so quick to condemn this idea. Marriage is a religious institution first and foremost. Really, who cares what the state does with it’s (more and more) completely unrelated institution that goes by the same name.
Homosexual monogamy can never produce children...
These people seek a ceremonious sanctification and an esoteric absolution.
If you let em carry on for a while, eventually they make their madness evident.
Personally I'd be willing to take my chances.
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Better if they took him for a nap with the fishes.
he is full on insane. period.
Loud and Proud.
Like most things it is involved with, we will never get the gubberment out of the marriage business, much to the detriment of the institution of marriage.
But this guy is really a weasel.
Freegards, thanks for all the pings
The government should be neglecting all social institutions. Protect us from murderers and terrorists and leave everything else alone. There's no need for even these 'civil licenses' -- people can choose to form whatever sort of private contracts they want.
I’m sorry but if you supported Obama, you aren’t a Catholic.
CINOs - The group that keeps taking and taking - alive and thriving since 1962.
They took the Mass; they took Baptism; they took Confession; they took Communion; they took Confirmation; they took Holy Orders; now they want Marriage. When do they take Extreme Unction? Or will the dead be allowed this one Sacrament?
Good point. And then it will allow for the union of a man and a dog, a man and three small children, a women and four goats, ten men and forty two lemurs, two children and their pit bull, and...
Really, we care. Every state, apart from what it might be argued theoretically, has always relied upon some kind of world view system of morality. Whether that was the pagan view of Rome, or in the case of the US, in the biblical view of Judeo-Christian propriety.
We cannot escape such a connection between the underlying world view and the public morality, so the question will be: With what do we replace this with now?
The best we can do is be Salt of the Earth and hope people listen to us.
Marriage will still be valid to the believers long after the government gets rid of it. Once the financial benefits disappear, so will the homosexuals “need” to be married. But for those who look at the oath as to “God”, it won't matter one bit what the rest of them think, we will still be married and God will still bless our union.
Separation of church and state, folks. You wanted it. Now sit back and enjoy the results.
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