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Captain played role in Cold War sub showdown
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | May 30, 2009 | Matthew Jones

Posted on 05/30/2009 2:23:28 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

After he graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy in 1947, Ted Davis' first assignment was aboard the aircraft carrier Antietam. As that tour was ending, his superiors tried to keep him in aviation.

"Anybody who would fly on and off this thing is crazy," Davis declared. "I'm going to be a submariner, where it's peaceful and quiet."

Davis got his wish, rising through the ranks to command the Grenadier, a Tench-class diesel sub. But things proved to be neither peaceful nor quiet. Fifty years ago this week, he and his 80-member crew made history, forcing a Soviet sub to the surface and proving the Soviet presence in the Atlantic.

It all started as a sporting argument between Adms. Arleigh Burke and Jerauld Wright. Wright, who commanded the Atlantic Fleet, claimed there were Soviet subs operating in sea lanes off the U.S. coast. Burke, then chief of naval operations, said, "Prove it."

So the offer came down: The crew that forced a Soviet sub to the surface would win a case of Jack Daniel's whiskey. Davis passed on the challenge to his crew, though he knew they had a one-in-a-million chance of even finding a Soviet sub.

Soon after, the Grenadier left Key West bound for an exercise in the "GIUK gap," the stretches of northern water that flow between Greenland, Iceland and the United Kingdom.

On May 28, 1959, as the sub waited for a target to pass by overhead, the sonar operator heard an unfamiliar sound, a whoosh that emerged then disappeared.

"He just said, 'This is different,' " Davis recalled. "I didn't have to ask him why."

The crew went to work, flying blind as all subs do. The sonar operators had to estimate depth and range from the quality of the sound, which could be affected by the surrounding water temperature.

How far out was the Soviet sub? About 11 miles. How fast? Five knots. Which way was it headed? Home.

The Grenadier's crew plotted a course based on educated guesses, setting themselves to track right into the Soviet sub, hoping to hear it again before they hit each other. They proceeded in silence for nearly six hours, hearing nothing, then: "Contact! Close aboard! Port bow!"

The Soviet sub was roaring toward them, closing in at about 400 yards. Soviet subs could run hundreds of feet deeper than U.S. subs, so the Soviet commander could have been shooting by underneath to scare them. Davis didn't flinch.

"I assumed the guy was as smart as I was, and that he had as good a crew," Davis said. "I knew he wasn't going to do anything dumb. He wasn't going to fire a torpedo."

But Davis had his torpedoes ready, just in case.

A more likely possibility was that the Soviets would try to damage the Grenadier, leaving it dead in the water. So Davis ordered his sub to maneuver using its sonar, always keeping the Soviet sub in front. This gave the crew a clearer idea of where it was and meant the Grenadier wouldn't present its unprotected rudder and screw to the Soviet sub. "If so," Davis warned, "he can clip the things that will get you home."

The Soviet sub turned several times. Each time, the Grenadier switched around and fell in behind it, trailing at about 2,000 yards.

At this point, the crew was having trouble lighting its cigarettes, a sure sign the carbon dioxide level was building up on board. Diesel subs of that era lacked the air-scrubbing systems of modern nuclear subs. They needed to surface every 24 hours or so to allow the engines to kick in, charge its two massive batteries and flood the sub with fresh air.

Davis decided to surface. While above water, he radioed the Atlantic Fleet: "Have contact with Soviet submarine, can track indefinitely." He called in an anti-submarine patrol plane from the U.S. naval air station in nearby Keflavik, Iceland. He listened. And he waited.

When the sonar operator reported the Soviet sub coming up to take a peek, the Grenadier vectored the patrol plane right over it. As the periscope broke the surface, the plane dropped flares right beside it.

Now the Soviet sub knew the plane knew. It also knew there was probably a U.S. sub out there. The periscope slipped back below the water and the Grenadier stayed above, continuing the hunt. Several hours later, the sonar signal went silent. So did the Grenadier.

"All stop!" Davis ordered. "I want no noise whatsoever."

One officer suggested using the sub's active sonar to find the Soviet sub. Davis declined, since it would give away their position.

"He doesn't know where we are," he said. "We know he's 2,000 yards ahead of us from the last ping."

Davis suspected the sub was deep and hovering. It was time to wait again.

"If he moves, he'll make a noise."

Davis knew the Soviet sub was running out of air and power, so it would have to surface. Diesel subs usually do so under cover of darkness. In the far north, where it never got truly dark at that time of year, the blackest part of night would come sometime around midnight. Davis wagered that's when they'd see the sub.

He was right. Just after midnight, now May 29, the sonar operators picked up the Soviet sub heading for the surface. An officer directed the patrol plane right overhead.

As the sub surfaced, the plane's searchlights lit it up and started taking pictures. They caught the Soviet crew trying to cover the sub's sail with canvas to hide a pair of missile tubes. The U.S. sailors were looking at a Zulu-class sub, the world's first ballistic missile platform.

"What they'd been trying to find out about this sub - the CIA operatives - we discovered in five minutes," Davis recalled.

After its 14-hour pursuit, the Grenadier stayed at about 2,000 yards, recording every sound and emission the Soviet sub made for the 24 hours it remained surfaced.

Its quarry caught, the U.S. sub informed the Atlantic Fleet and requested that Jack Daniel report aboard ASAP and Jack Daniel Jr. (a half case) report to the patrol plane's air station.

The Grenadier returned to its exercise. Three weeks later, the crew was back home in Key West, where Wright greeted it with a commendation and a case of whiskey.

The whiskey disappeared at the next crew party, but Davis held on to a bottle for years, thinking it was the last. He and a friend drank it sometime in the 1960s, after realizing Davis' housekeeper had already broken the seal and had a taste. He recently discovered the Grenadier's chief of the boat had kept an unopened bottle.

Davis, now 85, still advocates for a strong submarine force. He's concerned about new diesel subs, in use by other countries, that don't need to surface for air. And he worries about fighting a future war 600 feet under water, for the world is ultimately no clearer at that depth now than it was 50 years ago:

"Anybody who tells you that one sub knows what another is doing when they're submerged is crazier than hell."


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KEYWORDS: bubbleheads; pigboats; submarine
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1 posted on 05/30/2009 2:23:28 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Excellent - thanks for posting it.


2 posted on 05/30/2009 2:29:51 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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090529-N-0000X-056 KEY WEST, Fla. - In this undated file photo Adm. Jerauld Wright, Commander in Chief, U.S. Atlantic Fleet, personally congratulates each member of the crew of the Tench-class diesel submarine USS Grenadier (SS 525) after awarding the crew the Jerauld Wright Award "a case of Jack Daniels Old No. 7 Black Label Tennessee Sour Mash Whiskey." The Grenadier earned the award May 29, 1959 for providing proof that the Soviet Union was conducting submarine operations in the Atlantic Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Todd Schaffer/Released)

090529-N-0000X-060 KEY WEST, Fl .- In this undated file photo Lt. Cmdr. Ted Davis, center, marks a "Z" on the sail of the Tench-class diesel submarine USS Grenadier (SS 525), as Commander Submarine Squadron 12 Capt. Fritz Harlfinger, lef, and Commander Submarine Division 122 Cmdr. Brez Betzel look on. Davis was able to claim the mock "Z" after tracking a Soviet Zulu-class submarine for more than 18 hours, leading to the first documented evidence that the Soviet Union was conducting submarine operations in the Atlantic Ocean. The event was an intelligence coup for the U.S. military. (U.S. Navy photo/Released)

090529-N-0000X-052 ARGENTIA, Newfoundland, Canada - In this undated file photo Lt. Cmdr. Ted Davis wears a medal created for him by crew members of the Tench-class diesel submarine USS Grenadier (SS 525) in recognition of his leadership during the tracking of a Soviet Zulu-class submarine that led to the first documented evidence that the Soviet Union was conducting submarine operations in the Atlantic Ocean. The event culminated shortly after midnight on May 29, 2009, more than 18 hours after the Soviet submarine was first located by Grenadier's sonar operators. The medal, made out of a mayonnaise lid and pieces of an old flag, and nicknamed the "Arleigh Medal" after then-Chief of Naval Operations Arleigh Burke, was returned by Davis nearly 45 years later to Willie Dunagan, a Radioman 2nd Class aboard Grenadier, who was one of several crewmembers who created the medal. (U.S. Navy photo/Released)

090518-N-7705S-010 VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (May 18, 2009) Retired Navy Capt. Ted Davis recounts the events of May 29, 1959, the day the submarine he commanded, the Tench-class diesel sub USS Grenadier (SS 525), surfaced a Soviet submarine in the Atlantic Ocean. The event proved for the first time that the Soviet Union was conducting submarine operations in the Atlantic, and was an intelligence coup for the U.S. military. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Todd Schaffer/Released)

090518-N-7705S-027 VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (May 18, 2009) This bottle of Jack Daniels Old No. 7 whiskey was presented to retired Navy Capt. Ted Davis on the 40th anniversary of the surfacing of a Soviet submarine by the U.S. Navy's Tench-class diesel submarine USS Grenadier (SS 525), commanded by then-Lt. Cmdr. Davis. The bottle of whiskey was presented to Davis in honor of Grenadier receiving the Jerauld Wright award, named after Adm. Jerauld Wright, Commander in Chief, U.S. Atlantic Fleet, in recognition of the event. Grenadier's crew earned the award "a case of Jack Daniels Old No. 7 Black Label Tennessee Sour Mash Whiskey" on May 29, 1959, for providing proof that the Soviet Union was conducting submarine operations in the Atlantic Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Todd Schaffer/Released)

USS Grenadier SS525


3 posted on 05/30/2009 2:43:26 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: SES1066; Doohickey; CholeraJoe; Cyber Liberty; neverdem

Would Obama’s current pentagon leaders (er, adminstrators and bootlickers) be this courageous?


4 posted on 05/30/2009 2:43:58 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Great read.Thank you ,very much.


5 posted on 05/30/2009 2:45:48 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yes.. Thanks!! This was more exciting than The Hunt for Red October! (my favorite movie)


6 posted on 05/30/2009 2:46:10 PM PDT by DDLL
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What a wonderful story! Thanks for posting.


7 posted on 05/30/2009 3:05:32 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So much to learn from a generation of warriors .....


8 posted on 05/30/2009 3:06:22 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: imahawk

My sentiments exactly.


9 posted on 05/30/2009 3:06:30 PM PDT by montomike (Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This is an amazing story, all the more so because it’s true. 50th anniversary congrats to the skipper and crew.

But.... I’ve got one really dumb question: was smoking actually permitted on board a submerged submarine? That source of combustion would use up oxygen a lot faster, never mind the fire hazard in such an enclosed space (the stove burners in the galley were all electric, correct?)

JMHO, smoking while submerged sounds just plain dangerous.

Save it for when you’re surfaced and the smoking lamp is lit, I would think.


10 posted on 05/30/2009 3:15:08 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Would Obama’s current pentagon leaders (er, administrators and bootlickers) be this courageous?

Obama doesn't want courage, he wants obedience and careerists. A delicious thought though, can you imagine him walking in front of George S Patton at an inspection. Guaranteed the 45s would be fakes but Patton would have been TOO PROUD and TOO LOYAL to ever be a danger. How-some-ever, the Secret Service would be quaking in their shoes!

11 posted on 05/30/2009 3:50:32 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: elcid1970
JMHO, smoking while submerged sounds just plain dangerous.

Yes and your point is? These vessels were referred to as "Pig Boats" by their own crew for the odor and stink from many men and miserable conditions. Another name for the "Silent Service" in the old days was "Suicide Service" and the number of subs that did not return to port fills many a book of heroes. Dangerous has all sorts of gradations - smoking was low on the totem pole.

As for smoking, again it is modern sensibilities versus old time reality. Smokes were part of rations and almost everybody did it, morning noon and night. You are right that they would douse the smoking lamp when the air got precious but it was a right and these were people who were already sailing into danger and death.

12 posted on 05/30/2009 4:03:09 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: elcid1970

They had little smoker cans at every chair at every watchstation.


13 posted on 05/30/2009 4:06:36 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: SES1066

Real men sailing in a real Navy. Not the watered down “social experiment” the Navy has become.


14 posted on 05/30/2009 4:27:19 PM PDT by Shellback Chuck
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Great post.


15 posted on 05/30/2009 4:42:04 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Robert A. Cook, PE

Those of us who served during the Cold War know that it was a real war. This is just one of thousands, if not more, true tales of heroism from that era.

“Ivan watches, Ivan listens, Ivan kills. Think EWO!”


16 posted on 05/30/2009 4:53:44 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Life's not fair, people are mean. Get over it.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Great read and thanks for posting!

I wonder if he fired the house keeper? :)

17 posted on 05/30/2009 4:54:46 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Cool Thanks

STS2/SS

18 posted on 05/30/2009 4:56:00 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Hey GOP follow Dick Cheney's lead)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Outstanding story, and thanks for posting it! That took quite a pair of big, hairy, brass ones to pull that operation off...and I’ll bet that JD tasted mighty fine...


19 posted on 05/30/2009 4:56:15 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: Shellback Chuck

“Real men sailing in a real Navy. Not the watered down “social experiment” the Navy has become.”

Rest assured the Submarine Force is still “real Navy.”


20 posted on 05/30/2009 5:11:15 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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