[stockpirate]

To take up arms to defend the life of an unborn child is not murder, it is defense of a person who has no ability to protect itself.

It is defending the defense, thus providing self-defense for the child.

So by some here our founding fathers had no right to attck the British.

Sending troops to Iraq was not whta we should have done, as they did not attack us.

I think we have the right to defend life and liberty by whatever means required.

[wmfights]

So by some here our founding fathers had no right to attck the British.

Correct.

What would lead someone to the point he would think all he could do to stop an abortionist would be to kill him. Is it possible that having no voice in the govt might be a trigger?

Our founding fathers revolted over taxes and the lack of representation in govt. Is there a similarity here, how states have passed laws restricting abortion that then had the laws over turned by judges.

[El Gato]

So by some here our founding fathers had no right to attck the British.

The didn't. They waited for the British to attack them, which they did at Lexington and Concord, then they "gave back", more than they'd received.

Even at Concord, when the militiamen thought the regulars were burning the town (they weren't) it was the redcoats guarding the bridge who fired first.