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Fr. Pavone on Tiller Killing
Christian Newswire ^ | 5/31/09 | Father Frank Pavone

Posted on 05/31/2009 12:18:44 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: rightwingjew
2 Machabees is not a part of scripture or in any Bible I have ever seen

2 Maccabees is a book of the Catholic and Orthodox and a couple of smaller Protestant churches. Which is to say that about 75% of all Christians have it in their Canons.

81 posted on 06/01/2009 6:46:16 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: remaxagnt
im rejoicing today!

I wouldn't 'celebrate' anyone being murdered.

82 posted on 06/01/2009 9:43:28 AM PDT by frogjerk (C-NJ)
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To: wagglebee
I heard Fr. Pavone on Catholic Connection with Teresa Tomeo radio program. Another point he made, was that as far as we in the pro-life movement are concerned, nothing changes. In fact, abortionists everywhere should thank those who picket abortuaries because were it not for the calming presence of peaceful protesters, more abortionists would be killed. He noted that so long as the abortion regime remains what it is, both violent and non-violent reactions to it will continue, whether one likes them or not.

He told the following anecdote. After one Salvi shot someone at an abortuary in Brookline, Massachusetts, Cardinal Law suggested that we perhaps should have a moratorium on pro-life protests. To which Cardinal O'Connor of New York responded that he, too would be willing to consider a moratirium on protest as soon as the baby killers start a moratorium on baby killing.

83 posted on 06/01/2009 10:09:51 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I’ve got a King James Bible and a New American Standard Bible but 2 Machabees isn’t in either one. But it’s in your Catholic Bible. So whose Bible is divinely inspired? Yours or mine? Second thought, never mind.


84 posted on 06/01/2009 4:36:29 PM PDT by rightwingjew
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To: All
Pinged from Terri Dailies


85 posted on 06/01/2009 4:43:50 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: rightwingjew

Well the Catholic Church wrote the Bible, but a man, Martin Luther, decided that he could do a better job, and removed it. His reason is that the Jewish Rabbis, after the destruction of the Temple, removed it from their Canon. An odd decision for a virulent anti-semite like Luther.


86 posted on 06/01/2009 4:52:47 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: frogjerk

60 thousand babies died by the hand of this man. live by the sword die by the sword!


87 posted on 06/01/2009 6:38:29 PM PDT by remaxagnt (`)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Jewish prophets wrote the Bible guided by the Holy Spirit. Catholic Church came later.


88 posted on 06/01/2009 8:29:26 PM PDT by rightwingjew
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To: rightwingjew

It is true that the Jews wrote the Old testament prior to the life of Christ. However they did not create a Canon until after the destruction of the second Temple. There are a number of books which were rejected by the Rabbis at that time.


89 posted on 06/02/2009 3:36:19 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

The second Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Most of the New Testament Books were written by that date and again were written by the Jewish followers of the Jewish Messiah, Y’shua (Jesus). Catolic church came later.


90 posted on 06/02/2009 7:19:15 PM PDT by rightwingjew
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To: rightwingjew

The Catholic Church is generally considered to have originated at or around the Christian Pentecost. There is really no other period to choose as the origin time. As we know Catholic means universal and is a term used since the earliest days as a characteristic of the Church. It appears that the earliest members of the Church said that they were following ‘The Way (of the Lord)’, and the term Christian was first used as a derogatory by some Jews to distinguish the followers of Christ from [other] attendees at Temple services, and later at synagogues.

What other folks call the Roman Catholic Church is properly referred to as The Church, or The Catholic Church. The term ‘Roman Catholic’ is technically incorrect, since all of those in communion with the Pope do not follow the Roman Rite. In communication with others we sometimes fall into that technically incorrect common terminology.

The New Testament Gospel of John and the Book of Revelations both are thought to date to the end of the first century. The other Gospels are thought to date to the post Second Temple period, except that Mark might have been written slightly earlier. A few epistles are considered to have been written while the Temple existed, but most were post Temple.


91 posted on 06/02/2009 8:09:50 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

All New Testament Books except those authored by John were written A.D. 50s and 60s. John’s work was post AD 70. Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit fell on the 120 in the Upper Room of Acts 2 was the Messianic fullfilment of the Feast of Weeks which would have been 50 days forward of the Feast of First Fruits which had it’s fulfillment in the Resurrection of Christ. The 120 believers in the upper room were not catholics or baptists they were mostly Jews. The catholic church came into prominence about 300 AD after most things Jewish had been expunged from the early church. Indeed, the greatest tormentors and persecutors of the Jews for two millenia has been the catholic church. When Christ returns in Glory it will be in Jerusalem not Rome. He will sit on David’s throne and establish His Kingdom from Israel not Rome. Salvation is of the Jews not the Catholics. John 4:22 If you take comfort in your belief that it was all catholic from the begining fine, but it is not reality.


92 posted on 06/03/2009 3:05:48 PM PDT by rightwingjew
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To: rightwingjew

Once a person dies, it is too late to pray for them to save their soul; HOWEVER, if they are in purgatory, you can pray for the repose of their soul.


93 posted on 06/03/2009 5:55:10 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: rightwingjew
Indeed, the greatest tormentors and persecutors of the Jews for two millenia has been the catholic church

I seem to remember a certain pagan Socialist outfit referred to as the Nazi part. I guess that makes you a Holocaust denier.

94 posted on 06/03/2009 11:40:17 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: wagglebee
insist on a culture in which violence is never seen as the solution to any problem

insist all you want Padre, history is full of the contrary...but good luck..

Are most Catholic clergy anti-death penalty?

95 posted on 06/03/2009 11:41:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: Mamzelle

What sort of fake church welcomed that monster as a deacon?


96 posted on 06/03/2009 11:43:12 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: rightwingjew
The catholic church came into prominence about 300 AD after most things Jewish had been expunged from the early church

So in your opinion who started the Catholic Church, and when. Also what was the difference between the practices of these first Catholics and the non-Catholic followers of Christ five years earlier.

97 posted on 06/03/2009 11:43:44 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: icwhatudo

thank you...I never knew about this pacifism thing underlying a lot of pro-lifers till this

count me out

proudly anti-abortion...not prolife movement sort I reckon

southern baptist btw...we belive in consequence of behavior

Quakers in injun country armed only with a Bible....i keep thinking that reading some of these posts


98 posted on 06/03/2009 11:45:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: lastchance; goat granny
I could care less, it's arrogant to be so concerned about the soul of a man who killed 65,000 babies.

What the heck is wrong with some of you folks here?

dang I feel like I woke up in swarm of “feel the love Jesus freaks from the 70s floating around tepees somewhere in Colorado spouting platitudes about peace and non violence”

this is a tough world and folks are killing babies worse than any genocide I know of and all you guys want to do is pray for it all to be ok and save their damned souls of the killers

beam me up scotty..please

99 posted on 06/03/2009 11:50:52 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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To: frogjerk

oh yes you would if they did enough to you personally


100 posted on 06/03/2009 11:52:46 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama .....you are not my friend. You are an enemy of this nation and my culture and traditions)
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