Posted on 06/01/2009 1:06:11 PM PDT by wagglebee
And how many people has Tiller murdered?
Babies are of no use to the empty suit, they do not give money, they do no vote and for sure they don’t pay taxes for him to give to his supporters.
Therefore they are useless to him, as a matter less than useful, nothing.
No, he didn't. He was doing hundreds of third-term abortions each year.
People can’t be upset about things they haven’t heard about. While the death of the sergeant and the wounding of the officer is indeed a tragedy, they weren’t national figures, so the attack wasn’t national news.
I’m alluding to Barack going beyond.
I looking forward to the day that his girls get old enough to realize that they were a 'burden' to him.
Thanks dad...
I’m betting Tiller had a few “oopsies” that he had hauled off as quickly as possible.
Imagine the mental anguish from a woman who has been coerced into the late term abortion anyway, to hear the cries of her “induced” baby before they cart it away to die of exposure and neglect.
Obama is against murder, but serial killing.... not so much.
Lawless actions do nothing to elevate the pro-life movement. In fact, it does more harm. The perpetrator’s actions, however noble, can not nor should be excused. That he committed this act in church is even more henious. It is an act against God. The commandment states, “Thou shalt not murder.”
Now, before everyone starts to pile on, let me be clear. I do not support abortion. I’m on your side. But truth is truth. So spare yourselves the time of telling me how bad you think I am for disagreeing.
Judgments in matters of life and death belong to God alone.
Not according to Genesis 9:6 NASB “Whoever sheds man’s blood, by man his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God He made man.”
AND
Romans 13:3,4 NASB “For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil.
God gives to mankind the responsibility to judge murderers and administer capital punishment. He reserves the right to determine the murderer’s eternal destination AFTER His will has (or has not) been done, through capital punishment, by imperfect human justice.
You posted:
“That he committed this act in church is even more henious.”
Why?
Exodus 21:12-14 states “He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death. But if he did not lie in wait for him, but God let him fall into his hand, then I will appoint you a place to which he may flee. If, however, a man acts presumptuously toward his neighbor, so as to kill him craftily, you are to take him even from My altar, that he may die.”
God was talking to a specific group of people about a specific instance. You can find justification for anything in the Bible, but it doesn’t mean it was what God intended. Should we murder whomever we please?
God said that vengence was his, did he not?
crickets??????
There is a difference between justice and vengeance, wouldn’t you agree? Or do you define EVERY “killing” as “murder?”
I was addressing your assertion that it was particularly heinous for the killer to shoot Tiller in (or near) church. Why is that “worse” than anywhere else?
Do you think mankind has any responsibility to execute capital punishment in accordance with God’s word, taken in its complete context? How do you interpret Genesis 9:6 and Romans 13:3-4?
BTW. God was not talking to a specific group of people about a specific instance. He was talking to His people about how to administer justice, and differentiating between an accidentally caused death and a deliberate murder.
I hear ya, but it not going to stop until those involved stop it.
Wouldn’t it have been great if Nazi Germany had “stopped” their own death camps? Maybe if they had been allowed enough time and latitude, they would have solved all their “own” problems. After all, their courts gave them legal sanction to do everything they did.
The American holocaust dwarfs the German holocaust, but Americans seem to suffer far less anguish or angst over our sanctioned murders than the Germans did/do over theirs.
By the time Dresden was firebombed, the allies were well aware of what was going on in the NAZI concentration camps. That weighed heavily on trying to force a quick end to the war, to save as many as possible the oven fried feeling. Churchill pushed it hard, for FDR to go along, and finally succeeded.
So when ZERO apologizes, ask if he would have rather had another 100,000 innocents cooked to death.
ZERO isn't historically accurate about near everything he says from the start.
You posted: “ZERO isn’t historically accurate about near everything he says from the start.”
Agreed, and I don’t think he is merely ignorant, but deliberately deceptive.
What saddens me is not Tiller’s death, but the apparent inability for many (if not most) of us to distinguish between the innocent and the guilty.
True justice punishes the guilty (Tiller) and protects the innocent (his thousands of victims). Our society’s definition of “justice” protects the murderer (Tiller) and ignores the slaughtered innocents.
Again, this is what saddens me, particularly when those who call themselves believers, or Christians, ignore the clear teachings of Scripture about “justice,” and pollute our thinking with miguided notions of non-violence which actually increase the shedding of innocent blood in our midst.
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