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To: MrB

You know, since Tiller met his Maker, I wondered if perhaps it was God’s will that Tiller was stopped.

When Tiller was going to be prosecuted for a mere 19 of the abortions that even abortionists cannot perform legally, I remember praying that Tiller would see the evil of abortion and repent.

Tiller had his whole life to change. Maybe the 60,000 babies he killed was evidence that he would never repent and stop the killing. Maybe God did send the man who killed Tiller (who is also now a murderer) to take Tiller out of the baby killing business.

They always say “It was God’s will” when something happens. Like when my young uncle was taken by cancer, others I know taken even younger, and recently an aunt taken suddenly in her sleep. We grieve, but know my loved ones were Christian and are absent from the body, but now present with The Lord. So is it not also possible that God took Tiller out of the game of free will on Earth, and decided Tiller’s will was to kill innocent human life and that it was time for God to judge him and send him to Hell?

I dunno, just something that came to mind on Sunday after the news of Tiller’s demise was made public. Perhaps the man who took Tiller out, was in a way, a soldier of God. A flawed man to be sure and now also a killer, but there is such a thing as a soldier of God, someone who God calls to do things.

I do not have my flame retardant underwear and bra on folks, so be kind in any remarks. It’s just a theory. I do believe fully in God. He is all powerful and can do anything. Why then is it not possible Tiller’s killing was a result of God’s will? Be kind. Just wanted to float this idea out there. I mean there were lots and lots of Chistian soldiers in the Bible, fighting for righteousness. Why should it be any different today?


30 posted on 06/02/2009 12:32:03 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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To: TheConservativeParty

Hey, I’m with you. I believe God will give us many, many chances to repent before we’re allowed to leave this life.

Tiller used up his last chance, and was taken out of the picture before he killed any more innocents. God used a flawed, wicked, troubled person to do so.


35 posted on 06/02/2009 12:35:36 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: TheConservativeParty

TheConservativeParty wrote:

I do believe fully in God. He is all powerful and can do anything. Why then is it not possible Tiller’s killing was a result of God’s will? Be kind. Just wanted to float this idea out there. I mean there were lots and lots of Chistian soldiers in the Bible, fighting for righteousness. Why should it be any different today?

Nevadan writes:

I understand the emotional reaction to accept and affirm the death of a person who committed such moral wickedness, yet, I still believe, if we are consistent with being righteous before God and man (see Acts 24:16 “So I strive always to keep my conscience clear before God and man.”)
, that taking the law into our own hands is a sin against God and man. What Tiller did was also a sin against God and man. Both acts were wrong - Tiller had the more egregious sin, but still, murdering him was wrong as well.

Why? Because if you start “acting on God’s behalf” in regard to justice, you are taking upon yourself what rightly belongs to the government - not self-proclaimed prophets who claim “God told me to do this”.

God is perfectly able to mete out justice on His own. But, don’t get me wrong - I’m not saying we should stand by and not defend ourselves. I’m not a pacifist. However, dealing out justice on our own volition, without the authority of our elected govenment, is just plain murder. I do not believe that God condones that.

Please do not believe I’m against those who tried to kill Hitler - that was a time of war and Hitler was violating both the laws of God and man. I do not see these acts as one and the same.

The example of the militia defending their right to keep and bear arms - if that is true and all there is to the story, then I would say they are justified in resisting because the government was violating the Law of the Land, i.e. the Constitution.

The guy who murdered Tiller was acting in his own accord - not God’s. God always told His prophets and His people what He was going to do way ahead of time - so that when it happened - you knew it was God. People who go around acting in God’s name - we don’t know if God spoke to them. Anyone could say this. I just do not believe that kind of activity matches the character of integrity of our God.

As long as we still have the right to vote and change our leaders and laws, plus the freedom to discuss and argue our position, then I do not believe we have the moral right to take the law into our own hands. Going down that road is a very, very, serious and scary thing for our country and our society.


62 posted on 06/02/2009 1:10:56 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: TheConservativeParty

” A man who hardens his neck after much reproof will be suddenly broken beyond remedy.” Proverbs 29:1 (NASB)

Once again, God’s Word sums it up quite nicely.


84 posted on 06/02/2009 1:49:34 PM PDT by GWMcClintock ("When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Ps. 11:3)
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To: TheConservativeParty

The night before the last Abortionist was killed I had a dream. Someone had been murdered and cut open like a deer to be gutted. He was laying clinically on what looked like a surgeon’s table in the middle of a living room. Something very strange, though, lying in the middle of his opened up and bloodied guts was a beautiful baby cooing and gently kicking it legs in the air with a happy, innocent look on it’s face. The next day when the Abortionist was killed I thought because he is dead more beautiful, sweet babies live.


94 posted on 06/02/2009 6:49:41 PM PDT by Bellflower (The end of this age is near but the beginning of the next glorious one is coming!)
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