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Sotomayor Made Same “Wise Woman” Speech In 1990s — And No One Objected
The Plum Line ^ | June 3, 2009 | Greg Sargent

Posted on 06/03/2009 1:34:49 PM PDT by MaestroLC

I’ve just obtained a speech that Sonia Sotomayor gave in 1994, in which she made a comment virtually identical to the “wise Latina” one from 2001 that has generated so much controversy.

And though the 1994 speech was disclosed to Republican Senators as part of her confirmation for Court of Appeals in 1998, there’s no sign that anyone objected to it in any way.

The revelation raises fresh questions as to why the 2001 comments generated the controversy they did, and suggests that the comments are not as controversial as her critics claim.

A copy of the 1994 speech was included with the questionnaire she submitted for the 1998 confirmation. A Sotomayor supporter sent both to me.

Here’s what she said in the 1994 speech:

“Justice O’Connor has often been cited as saying that “a wise old man and a wise old woman reach the same conclusion in dueling cases. I am not so sure Justice O’Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes the line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, if Prof. Martha Minnow is correct, there can never be a universal definition of ‘wise.’ Second, I would hope that a wise woman with the richness of her experience would, more often than not, reach a better conclusion.”

That’s virtually identical to the comments from 2001 that have generated days and days of controversy.


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1 posted on 06/03/2009 1:34:50 PM PDT by MaestroLC
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To: MaestroLC
was disclosed to Republican Senators... no sign that anyone objected to it in any way.

Why am I not surprised?

2 posted on 06/03/2009 1:38:03 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: MaestroLC

If she made the same comments twice it’s more odious, not less.


3 posted on 06/03/2009 1:41:05 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: MaestroLC

Yes, and the three stooges were wise guys, too...


4 posted on 06/03/2009 1:42:30 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor has no pedigree.)
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To: Drango

But it does mean that we have to explain why it wasn’t challenged the first time around. (My friday night margarita down the street just got harder if I also try to do it in a way that won’t make the GOP seem like useless lumps.)


5 posted on 06/03/2009 1:52:46 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: Hegemony Cricket

They have more credibility then she does and they make more sense!! Right Bro.


6 posted on 06/03/2009 1:54:13 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotlme)
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To: TomOnTheRun; Drango
"A copy of the 1994 speech was included with the questionnaire she submitted for the 1998 confirmation. A Sotomayor supporter sent both to me."
If she made the same comments twice it’s more odious, not less.
But it does mean that we have to explain why it wasn’t challenged the first time around. (My friday night margarita down the street just got harder if I also try to do it in a way that won’t make the GOP seem like useless lumps.)
The question would have to be, "What else was going on in 1994, which might have kept this on the back burner, or completely off the stove?" And a possible answer would be, "The Congressional Post Office and the Congressional bank scandal." You have to admit, we were pretty excited back 15 years ago about other things than a Federal judge being impolitic. Sotomayor was legitimately not that big a deal before being nominated to SCOTUS. There were bigger fish to fry.

7 posted on 06/03/2009 2:08:14 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: TomOnTheRun
But it does mean that we have to explain why it wasn’t challenged the first time around.

No, it does not. She wasn't up for the Supreme Court. That's not even the argument that should be made. Go on offense.

The 2001 "wise Latina" comments, along with the "wise woman" comments, proves a pattern of thought that is contrary to what a fair-minded justice should be. It is not a mere "misstatement" that Dems can wash away now.

As time goes on and more information is discovered, her nomination becomes more troubling. It's important to expose her philosophy, even if she is a lock for confirmation.

It may be too soon to say this, but I'm getting a sense of a slow but sure backlash against this nomination as the public learns more about her.

8 posted on 06/03/2009 2:09:10 PM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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The vetting for an appeals court nominee is less stringent than a supreme court nominee. Because the supreme court can overturn the appeals court if they try anything.


9 posted on 06/03/2009 2:14:02 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MaestroLC

And more importantly, this shows that Obama’s claim that she mis-spoke is a lie. Unless she has been mis-speaking for a decade.


10 posted on 06/03/2009 2:14:41 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MaestroLC

Can anyone here think of a good reason (or several good reasons) why the comment in 2001 is now raising concerns as opposed to a similar comment made in 1994 when she was not being considered for the highest bench in our country? Gee, ya think that maybe now her influence on the SCOTUS might raise the stakes as opposed to her sitting on a lower bench?


11 posted on 06/03/2009 2:15:12 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: TomOnTheRun

“Officer, this kid was cutting through my yard and trampling my flowers”.

“But officer, I do it every day, so why is she complaining this time?”


12 posted on 06/03/2009 2:15:28 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TomOnTheRun
Besides, with O'Connor still on the court we weren't in a position to close the deal on the end of affirmative action quotas. Now there is a lively hope that SCOTUS could declare that, what with "Affirmative Action" favoring people who look more like the the POTUS at the expense of those who look less like the sitting president, quotas are passe'.

And that the future end of quotas, foreshadowed by Sandra Day O'Connor in her last major affirmative action opinion, is now.

13 posted on 06/03/2009 2:19:57 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Yeah. I don’t buy it and I doubt the buddies would either.

Congressional franking scandal or not - if they had her on record (the record they read for her approval!) as saying something they considered racist she should have been called on it by SOMEBODY. Even just a minor objection. Or maybe a vague grunt of disapproval. SOMETHING

Instead, they were silent implying that either it was not seen as that big a deal to promote a racist or that they didn’t find the comment that objectionable.

This just puts a nasty taste in my mouth. Especially when you combine it with that article that came out a few weeks ago about how the GOP only offered any obstruction back then to prevent her from having a totally unopposed approval in case Clinton nominated her for the SCOTUS.


14 posted on 06/03/2009 2:20:01 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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"And though the 1994 speech was disclosed to Republican Senators as part of her confirmation for Court of Appeals in 1998, there’s no sign that anyone objected to it in any way."

As important as The Court of Appeals is, it's not as likely to garner the attention that a Supreme court nomination would... or am I missing something?

Also, we are talking about this Issue -- of race -- in the age of Obama... Obama, who is to heal all our racial wounds and unite us all... Obama, who is also the one who nominated her for the supreme court.

STE=Q

15 posted on 06/03/2009 2:21:27 PM PDT by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Heh. Indeed. Point taken.

A slightly smaller matter than appointing a racist to a federal appeals bench though.


16 posted on 06/03/2009 2:21:54 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Quotas will end when opposition to them does. Perverse? Yes. But it would be in keeping with other bits and bobs of civil rights legislation through the years.


17 posted on 06/03/2009 2:23:14 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: TomOnTheRun
Quotas will end when opposition to them does. Perverse? Yes. But it would be in keeping with other bits and bobs of civil rights legislation through the years.

I don't understand what you are saying. "Quotas" will end because we won't call them by their name? What are these other examples you are citing?
18 posted on 06/03/2009 2:27:27 PM PDT by kenavi (Want a real stimulus? Drill!)
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To: kenavi

*sigh* No citations - just anecdotes. That’s probably a good measure of my anger and a sign that I need to sign off for the day.

As far as the anecdotes go ... all I have are the chats with friends and neighbors. My sense about quotas is that Liberals feel they were justified at one time but increasingly believe them to be unnecessary. They do, however, take any criticism of them NOW as saying they were NEVER required and then they get a big ol’ stick stuck someplace uncomfortable and fight tooth and nail for them.

A few years ago I stopped speaking ill of Affirmative Action and merely asked questions about it. Most of my liberal friends suddenly had a lot less support for it and a few of them folded completely. I get the sense that a lot of liberals are perverse enough to take that attitude.

Thanks for the good words and goodnight =)


19 posted on 06/03/2009 2:36:33 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: MaestroLC
The revelation raises fresh questions as to why the 2001 comments generated the controversy they did...

Perhaps because political correctness is being resisted more than in the 90's, so now it is more OK to take on a minority than it used to be.

20 posted on 06/03/2009 2:47:02 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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