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Born identity Birth certificate styles adjust to fit times and regulations
The Honolulu Star Bulletin ^ | June 6, 2009 | June Watanabe

Posted on 06/06/2009 3:46:22 PM PDT by jamese777

Question: What is the state's policy for issuing a "Certification of Live Birth" versus a "Certificate of Live Birth"? My first, second and fourth children received certificates, but my third and fifth children received certifications. Why the difference? The certificate contains more information, such as the name of hospital, certifier's name and title; attendant's name and title, etc. The certification has only the child's name, date and time of birth, sex, city/island/county of birth, mother's maiden name, mother's race, father's name and father's race. Why doesn't the state just issue certificates? When did it stop issuing certificates? Is it possible to obtain certificates for my third and fifth children?

Answer: No, you can't obtain a "certificate of live birth" anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues "certifications" of live births, and that is the "official birth certificate" issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

And, it's only available in electronic form.

Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.

"At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting," she said.

Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.

Okubo said the Health Department "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate."

"The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models," she said.

Okubo also emphasized the certification form "contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate."

She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."

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1 posted on 06/06/2009 3:46:23 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

I’m not exactly sure what the story is trying to say.


2 posted on 06/06/2009 3:48:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: jamese777; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 21stCenturyFreeThinker; Alice in Wonderland; ...

Ping


3 posted on 06/06/2009 3:48:56 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 138 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: cripplecreek

Sounds to me like the fix is in.


4 posted on 06/06/2009 3:50:06 PM PDT by lula ( If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: cripplecreek

Me neither


5 posted on 06/06/2009 3:50:13 PM PDT by CaptRon (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: cripplecreek

It looks like they are saying we have all the information, but you can’t see it. neener neener neener


6 posted on 06/06/2009 3:50:25 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 138 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: jamese777

“It says a “certification of live birth” is, in fact, a short-form official birth certificate. Information included in the document might differ from state to state.”


7 posted on 06/06/2009 3:52:18 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: jamese777; LucyT; pissant
How convenient.
8 posted on 06/06/2009 3:52:53 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: cripplecreek

>>> I’m not exactly sure what the story is trying to say.

I think it’s saying that there is no birth certificate... Only electronic data.

SO... Obama will soon be able to “prove” he was born in Hawaii.


9 posted on 06/06/2009 3:53:05 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: null and void

Naw. This story just means that it depends on how drunk the certificate issuer was the night before. Too much joy juice and pig puts someone in a bad mood. Some people get better certificates than others when Manu Manu is happy.


10 posted on 06/06/2009 3:53:17 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: jamese777

I would like to Donate 1 million dollars to charity in the name of the Doctor that birthed Obama. No one seems to know exactly who that man is.


11 posted on 06/06/2009 3:53:54 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Hey Obama how many Freedoms have you taken away from Americans today?)
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To: null and void
Actually, look deeper: Okubo said the Health Department "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate." But didn't this same beaurocrat claim to have seen Obowma's Birth certificate not just his CoLB? ... If that is true, perhaps the Kenyan BC is in Hawaqiian files, or perhaps a BC from some other place other than Hawaii is in their files since they do not have short or long form certificates any longer!
12 posted on 06/06/2009 3:55:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: null and void
Actually, look deeper: Okubo said the Health Department "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate." But didn't this same bureaucrat claim to have seen Obowma's Birth certificate not just his CoLB? ... If that is true, perhaps the Kenyan BC is in Hawaiian files, or perhaps a BC from some other place other than Hawaii is in their files since they do not have short or long form certificates any longer!
13 posted on 06/06/2009 3:56:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: jamese777
The title you created

"New Article On Hawaii Birth Certificates from today’s Honolulu Star Bulliten: 'Born Identity' "

did not match the published title at the source and had to be changed. To avoid having your thread removed, please just use published titles. Don't alter titles or make up your own. Thanks.

14 posted on 06/06/2009 3:57:08 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: cripplecreek
I’m not exactly sure what the story is trying to say.

That Obama is President for Life

;-)

Wait, maybe :-(

15 posted on 06/06/2009 3:59:23 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: MHGinTN

Actually, look deeper: Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.” But didn’t this same beaurocrat claim to have seen Obowma’s Birth certificate not just his CoLB? ... If that is true, perhaps the Kenyan BC is in Hawaqiian files, or perhaps a BC from some other place other than Hawaii is in their files since they do not have short or long form certificates any longer!


That was this person’s boss: Dr. Chiyome Fukino who is the Director of the State Health Department who said that.
What Janice Okubo is saying is that the short form COLB IS the official state of Hawaii birth certificate since 2001. If that is true, it helps Obama.


16 posted on 06/06/2009 4:00:48 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Admin Moderator

The title you created
“New Article On Hawaii Birth Certificates from today’s Honolulu Star Bulliten: ‘Born Identity’ “

did not match the published title at the source and had to be changed. To avoid having your thread removed, please just use published titles. Don’t alter titles or make up your own. Thanks.


Sorry about that.


17 posted on 06/06/2009 4:01:44 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
What Janice Okubo is saying is that the short form COLB IS the official state of Hawaii birth certificate since 2001. If that is true, it helps Obama.

Sure it does, if Obama is 8 years old or younger.

18 posted on 06/06/2009 4:03:30 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante
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To: cripplecreek

You said — I’m not exactly sure what the story is trying to say.

Ummm.., it’s saying you’re not getting anything else from the State of Hawaii about Obama, other than what Obama showed you...

I would say that’s about the size of the story... LOL...


19 posted on 06/06/2009 4:03:53 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/554495.html


20 posted on 06/06/2009 4:04:34 PM PDT by dennisw (Weakness is a Crime! Don't be a Criminal - Bernarr MacFadden)
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