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12 similar flights deepen Air France 447 mystery
CNN ^ | 6.509 | Scott Bronsteain

Posted on 06/07/2009 9:59:51 AM PDT by libh8er

At least 12 airplanes shared the trans-Atlantic sky with doomed Air France Flight 447, but none reported any problems, deepening the mystery surrounding the cause of the plane's disappearance. Image released by the Brazilian Air Force shows oil slicks in the water near a debris site.

Image released by the Brazilian Air Force shows oil slicks in the water near a debris site.

Airlines confirmed that at least a dozen aircraft departed roughly at the same time and traversed approximately the same route, but did not report problematic weather conditions. This has led some aviation experts to suggest that technical problems on the airplane might be the main cause of the crash, though they may have combined with weather conditions to create serious problems.

The new information raises more questions than answers about Air France 447, believed to have plunged into the Atlantic Ocean somewhere between the coasts of Brazil and West Africa on May 31, presumably killing all 228 aboard. The plane's computer system reported a series of technical problems about four hours after takeoff and immediately after entering a large storm system a few hundred miles from the far eastern coast of Brazil.

Severe winds, updrafts and even lightning have been mentioned as possible causes of the crash, potentially triggering a failure of the plane's technical systems.

But aviation experts cautioned that weather alone would not normally cause a crash. Planes routinely fly through large storms, using the sensitive radar on board to navigate through specific storm cells. When conditions are severe enough, planes can easily deviate around or above storms, experts say.

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KEYWORDS: af447; airfrance; aviation; flight447; mystery
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1 posted on 06/07/2009 9:59:51 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er

immediately after entering a large storm system a few hundred miles from the far eastern coast of Brazil.

correct me if I’m wrong, but I read yesterday or the day before on one of the many threads on the subject that meteorologists confirmed the nearest thunderstorm was miles away from the flight based on flight path (assuming the information being received from the aircraft was accurate).

if that in fact is the case, why is the thunderstorm angle being relentlessly pursued?


2 posted on 06/07/2009 10:04:20 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: libh8er

It was blown out of the sky it was a terrorist attack


3 posted on 06/07/2009 10:04:29 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: libh8er

Is it FINALLY time for the tin foil hats to come out?!


4 posted on 06/07/2009 10:06:50 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: al baby

... either that or it’s because the aircraft was Airbus ...


5 posted on 06/07/2009 10:07:43 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: al baby; maggief

However there is no evidence of this. Everything right now is just speculation. I am assuming that the transponder for the black box has yet to be located.


6 posted on 06/07/2009 10:09:20 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
why is the thunderstorm angle being relentlessly pursued?

A) Cover up for lax security at Air France

B) Cover up for quality control/ maintenance failure at Airbus/Air France

7 posted on 06/07/2009 10:10:42 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: Ken522

No it was an Airburst prayers the the family


8 posted on 06/07/2009 10:11:02 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: al baby

Which terrorist group did it? Surely there’s been at least one claim by now? Terrorists get very disappointed if they don’t get credit for an attack.


9 posted on 06/07/2009 10:12:06 AM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: libh8er

We didn’t know jack about what caused the demise of flight 447 yesterday, and we don’t know jack about the demise of flight 447 today, so I don’t see a deepening of mystery here.

I am curious what happened, but I’ll wait until we get a lot more information before I consider ‘the mystery’ to have deepened.


10 posted on 06/07/2009 10:14:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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Anyone hear any more about the subs that were supposed to be heading to the area to search for remains, black boxes etc.?
I haven’t seen ANY mention in news stories about this aspect yet...

“Calling Dirk Pitt, Dirk Pitt, please pick up the white phone in the lobby, paging Dirk Pitt from NUMA!”


11 posted on 06/07/2009 10:15:13 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Perdogg
I am assuming that the transponder for the black box has yet to be located.

And it probably won't. AF447 went down in 12,000 ft of water.

12 posted on 06/07/2009 10:26:44 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: libh8er
Have you been to Brazil before? I was there 20 years ago and security wasn't lax then, and I doubt it is lax now.

The passenger manifest lists did include 5 Lebanese, 2 Moroccans and 1 Turk. Again, using scientific principles nothing can be ruled out.

However, error messages received is not consistent with a drop of cabin pressure. That information if taken at face value, would rule out a bomb. However, it would not rule out someone taking control of the plane and ramming into the ocean.


13 posted on 06/07/2009 10:31:10 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State)
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To: Ken522

Or because it was an Airbus flown by a Air France pilot.


14 posted on 06/07/2009 10:31:41 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: libh8er
Look for the body with the burned trousers. Shoe bombs will do that, ya know...

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15 posted on 06/07/2009 10:33:59 AM PDT by JCG
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To: okie01

“I am assuming that the transponder for the black box has yet to be located.
And it probably won’t. AF447 went down in 12,000 ft of water.”

Hmmm. Maybe, maybe not. Naval attack subs have pretty good “ears” if you’re listening for pingers, and it would not take one long to get to the area. Do not assume that this is not being done (though DOD will probably never publicize the involvement of such a vessel). The US has extremely impressive defense assets that could be brought into play.

As to whether the boxes are recoverable, I guess we’ll see. Consider that the ability to salvage items from great depths has improved over the years. A fragmented wreckage might actually be a benefit as it allows easier access to items of interest.


16 posted on 06/07/2009 10:38:32 AM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: okie01
And it probably won't. AF447 went down in 12,000 ft of water.

I think they have an accoustic pinger. A good set of hydrophones should be able to locate the area. Evil oil companies have the evil underwater technology to go down and retrieve it.

17 posted on 06/07/2009 10:38:42 AM PDT by fso301
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
why is the thunderstorm angle being relentlessly pursued?

Its all very simple, if the crash was caused by an "act of God" the Geneva convention applies and victims families can recover a maximum of $100,000.00. If the cause is shown to be negligence or error, each family could recover MILLIONS when the law suits are over.

18 posted on 06/07/2009 10:47:31 AM PDT by Species8472
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“Evil oil companies have the evil underwater technology to go down and retrieve it.”

LOL, like the way you said that.

“It’s clearly a triumph for the greens; It’s only because we’ve relentlessly called them as the evil they are that for once, out of shame, they’ve decided to use their heinous, earth-killing technology that is the very foundation of their pyramid of pollution for the betterment of mankind. Too bad people had to die first!/s


19 posted on 06/07/2009 10:49:28 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: fso301

I saw a picture of the pingers for the boxes and they are not much bigger than a roll of silver dollars. I would easily fit in the palm of your hand. Their batteries last long enough to emit a ping every minute for 30 days but can only be heard for a distance of approx. 1/4 mile. If they are at 12,000 feet it will be difficult.


20 posted on 06/07/2009 10:52:49 AM PDT by biff
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