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To: agere_contra
Using your Free Will for evil is not an error, in the sense of a mistake: "I was given two choices which both looked ok and I happened to pick the wrong one".

Like I said, a being with free will, created by an infallible being, should still make the correct choices, because otherwise it leads to the removal of the 'infallibility' quality of the creator.

 

Choosing to sin is not an unlucky guess, it is a deliberate act of rejection against the source of goodness.

One man's sin, another's virtue.

 

The fact that you or I can both, at any time, reject the Creator of the Universe is not a design flaw. The whole point of Free Will is that we are free. If we were not free to choose God - or free to reject him - then we would be stones: - the whole of our human reality would have no meaning.

 

A being is not exactly free, if it is threatened with detrimental consequences, for choices that it makes, before it does so.

54 posted on 06/08/2009 12:13:47 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Your “atheism” is obviously “grounded” in ignorance.
You have no clue as to the nature of the God that you denounce as non-existant.


62 posted on 06/08/2009 12:26:01 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
A being is not exactly free, if it is threatened with detrimental consequences, for choices that it makes, before it does so.

Incorrect. You are completely free. Even with a gun to your head, you can choose.

The essential freedom of Free Will is not reduced nor vitiated in any degree by the fact that our actions have consequences. We are not constrained to choose well - that would be the same as having no ability to choose. We are punished for choosing evil, but we may choose it.

Some people literally choose evil instead of good. It is a very terrible thing, and it happens. I have done it myself.

Fortunately we are in Time, and we still have a chance to retract our evil choices.

Not that you were doing this exactly, but be careful not to try to explain away your Free Will. Don't (for instance) imagine that we are predestined automata or leaves upon the wind, or something else that cannot choose its path. We are Men, with all the dreadful responsibility that that implies.

Hope this was helpful. UK time here, I am off home. Regards to all.

75 posted on 06/08/2009 12:37:43 PM PDT by agere_contra
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