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Miranda Warnings for Terrorists — Thank Sen. McCain
NRO ^ | June 09, 2009 | Andy McCarthy

Posted on 06/10/2009 5:29:50 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Steve Hayes is getting lots of well deserved attention for his report at the Weekly Standard today about how the Obama/Holder Justice Department has quietly instructed the FBI to start giving Miranda warnings to captured alien combatant terrorists — the next logical move in the ongoing effort to move us away from a war approach and return us to the law-enforcement paradigm for dealing with international terrorism.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2005mccainamendment; alquedabillofrights; andrewmccarthy; mcbama; mccain; mccainlegacy; mccaintruthfile; mccainwot; mcqueeg; mcterrorist; mctraitor; rino; torture
McLame :

"[Senator Obama] is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared about as President of the United States,"

1 posted on 06/10/2009 5:29:50 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

hey mcpain, lay off the kool-aid


2 posted on 06/10/2009 5:39:45 PM PDT by peace with honor
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To: RobinMasters

It’s McCain’s fault...what a stretch!


3 posted on 06/10/2009 5:40:34 PM PDT by meandog (Doh!)
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To: RobinMasters
If we have invaded another country, how do we justify enacting a legal process against citizens of that country. Was war declared by our Congress? I am so confused by this Liberal “think.”
4 posted on 06/10/2009 5:51:04 PM PDT by mia
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To: mia
Countries are passe. There is the Party, which is international, and the Leader, who is sort of a god.

When the party decides something is righteous, it commands it. When it decides something is unrighteous, it forbids it. The Leader enacts the decisions of the Party. All right thinking and true people support the Party, because there is no other way to be right.

They think this is modern and progressive and up to date. It isn't. It is the attitude and method of partisan sectarians through all history.

5 posted on 06/10/2009 6:03:20 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: meandog
It’s McCain’s fault...what a stretch!
You're right. It's not a stretch...it's not even a reach! It is simply a FACT!

Try reading the article.
I guarantee the president will argue that he is merely bringing government agents operating overseas into compliance with the McCain Amendment (enacted as part of the 2005 Detainee Treatment Act).

I hate to say I told you so, but back when we were having this debate, thanks to Senator McCain's grandstanding on "torture," I warned that his amendment would lead to the legal claim that American agents — including the military — were now required to give Miranda warnings to captured terrorists outside the U.S.

December 15, 2005:
The longer one wrestles with it, the more the McCain amendment forebodes a national-security catastrophe.

...al Qaeda terrorists captured in battle by members of our armed forces—the American soldiers they are trying to kill—would not only be protected from rough interrogation. They may very well have to be given Miranda warnings as well as free lawyers—underwritten by the Americans they are trying to kill.

Cynically tacked on to the 2006 defense appropriations bill (and thus holding hostage provisions for our troops in wartime), McCain’s amendment was approved by a 90-9 Senate vote on October 5, and a margin of 308-122 in the House on Wednesday.

Tuesday, September 19, 2006:
...among the things that moved House Armed Services Chairman Duncan Hunter toward the president's proposal on military commissions and away from the McCain/Graham/Warner proposal which is more modeled on the Uniform Code of Military Justice is the outrage that the UCMJ would require us to give Miranda warnings at the moment of battlefield capture for an al Qaeda terrorist.

If Congress is upset at the prospect of battlefield Miranda warnings for jihadists, it should not just worry about the current interrogations/military commissions proposal. It should repeal the McCain Amendment's extension of constitutional rights to alien jihadists.

Looks like Andy was right back in September 2006.
If I am right that the courts, including the Supreme Court, would find the McCain Amendment provides alien enemy combatants held overseas with the Fifth Amendment right against compulsory self-incrimination, then it is unavoidable that Miranda warnings must be given.

This really demonstrates how irresponsible the passage and signing of the 2005 McCain Amendment was.

McCain Mirage
from an irascible senate maverick — an old Washington hand who is quick to exploit the trendy concern-of-the-moment, demagoguing anyone who dares worry about the bigger picture. Take the senator’s “McCain amendment,” the 2005 legislation that extended Fifth Amendment rights to terrorists overseas. In its 2000 Dickerson decision, the Supreme Court held that if a person has a Fifth Amendment privilege, he is entitled to Miranda rights — i.e., the right to an attorney, at the expense of the American taxpayer, during all questioning. That means any terrorist we capture overseas could plausibly claim Miranda protection under the McCain amendment.

In short, leaving aside that the chief effect of McCain’s grandstanding was to intimidate our interrogation officers (stoking a fear of investigations that prompted purchases of litigation insurance and a drastic reduction in intelligence-collection), his legislation could eventually shut down interrogations. A future court, or even Justice Department, could very well read the McCain amendment in conjunction with Dickerson to require that defense attorneys be inserted into the interrogation mix shortly after capture — long before the “advanced psychological techniques,” with which the high-minded senator plans to replace those “abusive” Bush tactics, have any chance to work.

When confronted with this possibility, Sen. McCain and his backers snicker that such suggestions are absurd.

6 posted on 06/10/2009 8:56:33 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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7 posted on 06/11/2009 12:56:47 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: DoughtyOne; exit82; TADSLOS; cripplecreek; TigersEye

fyi


8 posted on 06/11/2009 12:57:59 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

Another day, another dimwit move by McCain is revealed. What’s new?


9 posted on 06/11/2009 1:13:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: RobinMasters

FOX news began reporting on this yesterday. I don’t believe they once mentioned McCain. It will be interesting to see if they ever connect the dots back to the RHINO. No doubt the MSM will.


10 posted on 06/11/2009 6:05:18 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (SARAH PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS.)
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11 posted on 06/11/2009 6:17:53 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Kimberly GG
for your information, a Rhino also known as Rhinoceros is an animal. A RINO on the other hand is a Republican In Name Only
12 posted on 06/11/2009 7:57:34 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Bad Ass Mistake America)
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To: RobinMasters

I now believe that the phrase RINO is inadequate. I am now substituting the word “CAPO”. Those were the concentration camp prisoners entrusted by the SS who took charge of other prisoners for the Nazis in order to gain personal power or advantage from his or her captors. I think it is far more fitting.


13 posted on 06/11/2009 9:02:18 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

I prefer “Vichy RINO” or “Kneepad Republican.”


14 posted on 06/11/2009 11:33:36 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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