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Weekly Standard (Conservative Magazine) may have been shooter (Von Brunn) target
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Posted on 06/11/2009 10:45:16 AM PDT by mnehring

FBI agents visited the offices of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine yesterday after a shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum and told employees they'd found the magazine's address

A senior Standard staffer confirmed the visit but declined to discuss it in detail. An FBI spokeswoman, Katherine Schweit , also declined to comment on the investigation.

Two other sources said two FBI agents arrived shortly after 5:00 p.m. Thursday at the 17th Street offices of the magazine. They told staffers that they had found the address of the magazine on a piece of paper associated with the shooter, James von Brunn, and asked whether the Standard had received any threats.

The magazine is about a mile north of the Holocaust Museum, and there's no other indication that von Brunn had targeted it. Von Brunn's published rants included attacks on "neocons," and the Standard has been at the heart of the neoconservative movement.

The suggestion that the Standard may have been a target complicates any view of the racist shooter in contemporary left-right terms. Von Brunn's white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a "right-wing extremist," but the substance of his views -- which included everything from believing that President Bush may have been in on the September 11 attacks to denying that President Obama is an American citizen -- are too far on the fringe to fit into conventional political classification.

The focus on the Standard, though, appears to be of a piece with his central motivation: Anti-Semitism. In one essay, Von Brunn attacked "JEWS-NEOCONS-BILL O’REILLY," and the suggestion that neoconservatism is a specifically Jewish conspiracy is common on the racist fringe.


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1 posted on 06/11/2009 10:45:16 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

I always liked Bill Kristol...glad he’s okay.


2 posted on 06/11/2009 10:47:48 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: mnehring

Keith Olberman is directly responsible for this.


3 posted on 06/11/2009 10:47:50 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Enemy of the state since 1978!)
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To: mnehring

notice how the left/media do not mention that the shooter is left wing or he is a registered Democrat.

like many on the left they are driven by hate and intolerance


4 posted on 06/11/2009 10:48:32 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: mnehring
Von Brunn's white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a "right-wing extremist...

Says who? The far left?

5 posted on 06/11/2009 10:48:51 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: mnehring

We already know that this Nazi piece of sh*t was a self-proclaimed socialist (like all fascists).


6 posted on 06/11/2009 10:49:52 AM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: mnehring

A socialist, democrat, pagan neocon-hating loon.

DUer. Koskid.


7 posted on 06/11/2009 10:51:38 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: mnehring

I personally think he was a LEFT WING radical.


8 posted on 06/11/2009 10:53:05 AM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: mnehring

Will post this here as well:

Registered Democrat (needs confirmation)
Christian hater
Jew Hater
FOX News’ Orielly hater
Weekly Standard hater
Bush hater
Neo-con hater
9-11 was an inside job
artist


9 posted on 06/11/2009 10:53:21 AM PDT by icwhatudo (For every clinic bombed or burned, 17 to 18 churches are burned down. MSM? MSM?)
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To: mnehring

This gets to the heart of Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism”.

The premise is that “Nazi’s” are right-wingers, despite their rejection of free markets, liberty and God.


10 posted on 06/11/2009 10:53:38 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: ataDude

Not just personally. He is a self-described Socialist, PAGAN, Neocon-hater!


11 posted on 06/11/2009 10:54:01 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: icwhatudo

Self-proclaimed Socialist and Pagan.


12 posted on 06/11/2009 10:54:37 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: mnehring

This guy was old enough to have been a contemporary of Hitler’s. Having these kind of violent homocidal tendencies and acting them out at 88 years old? And how many people that age are shot - wasn’t it twice? - and survive to get to a hospital? Most people that age are up to gardening at best as far as physical activity. I just find it all very weird and have to wonder what we’re not hearing about this guy.


13 posted on 06/11/2009 10:57:20 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: SolidWood

Hated big corporations

The list keeps growing...


14 posted on 06/11/2009 10:58:03 AM PDT by icwhatudo (For every clinic bombed or burned, 17 to 18 churches are burned down. MSM? MSM?)
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To: SolidWood

And, you forgot “registered democrat”... apparently... from another post.


15 posted on 06/11/2009 10:58:33 AM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: WayneS

” Von Brunn’s white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a “right-wing extremist...Says who? The far left?”

Yup, and the near left, too. The MSM and govt schools have been pimping the line that Nazis and white supremacists are just to the right of Republicans for decades. This despite the facts (”National SOCIALIST” anyone?) They’ve been doing it so long that it’s largely accepted as fact by the general populace...


16 posted on 06/11/2009 10:58:59 AM PDT by piytar (Take back the language: Obama axing Chrystler dealers based on political donations is REAL fascism!)
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To: SolidWood
Self-proclaimed Socialist and Pagan.

You forgot neo-con hater.
17 posted on 06/11/2009 10:59:44 AM PDT by theknuckler_33
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To: piytar

In the N.C. town I grew up in, it was well know that the majority of the elected Democrats were “former” KKK members.


18 posted on 06/11/2009 11:03:00 AM PDT by PogySailor (We're so screwed.....welcome to the American Oligarchy)
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To: All

Updated leftwing beliefs of the shooter:

Registered Democrat (needs confirmation)
Christian hater
Jew Hater
FOX News’ Orielly hater
Weekly Standard hater
Bush hater
Neo-con hater
9-11 was an inside job
artist
Stated that “SOCIALISM, represents the future of the West”
Stated that the Apostle Paul destroyed Rome by undermining its pagan virility.
Hated corporations


19 posted on 06/11/2009 11:04:24 AM PDT by icwhatudo (For every clinic bombed or burned, 17 to 18 churches are burned down. MSM? MSM?)
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To: icwhatudo

Those are the beliefs of Democrat Underground and many Obama supporters.


20 posted on 06/11/2009 11:05:27 AM PDT by icwhatudo (For every clinic bombed or burned, 17 to 18 churches are burned down. MSM? MSM?)
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To: mnehring

If this guy had it out for conservatives, perhaps he’s just an ordinary doctrinaire anti-semitic liberal.


21 posted on 06/11/2009 11:07:18 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: mnehring

Chris Matthews has blood on his hands.


22 posted on 06/11/2009 11:08:37 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: manc

Of course they don’t mention it. The spin here is that he is “ultra-right-wing”. Obviously spurred on by Rush Limbaugh and the like.


23 posted on 06/11/2009 11:09:12 AM PDT by Purrcival (Proud to share my birthday with President Reagan)
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To: sitetest

I have yet to meet a “conservative” anti-semite.

All anti-semites that I’ve met have been “liberals” who hated Bush, etc.


24 posted on 06/11/2009 11:10:29 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: icwhatudo

You can add “journalism student” - no wonder the marxist media is in CYA mode.


25 posted on 06/11/2009 11:12:11 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: mnehring
Von Brunn's white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a "right-wing extremist"

Only to the serial liars on the left and the fools who believe them.

Here's a pop quiz for the hacks at Politico. Who said the following:

"Let us not seek the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us seek the secret of the religion in the real Jew. What is the profane basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly cult of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly god? Money.

Very well, then, in emancipating itself from huckstering and money, and thus from real and practical Judaism, our age would emancipate itself.

An organization of society which would abolish the preconditions and thus the very possibility of huckstering, would make the Jew impossible. His religious consciousness would evaporate like some insipid vapour in the real, life-giving air of society...

We discern in Judaism, therefore, a universal antisocial element of the present time, whose historical development, zealously aided in its harmful aspects by the Jews, has now attained its culminating point, a point at which it must necessarily begin to disintegrate.

In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism."

Was it...

A - Rush Limbaugh
B - Adolf Hitler
C - Karl Marx

Hint: It's not A or B.

26 posted on 06/11/2009 11:16:11 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: mnehring

There is a local talk radio guy here who claims to be independent/moderate (Alan Handelman). Yesterday he was begging callers to tell him what set off the shooter. It was pretty obvious he was wanting someone to say Rush.


27 posted on 06/11/2009 11:16:13 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: mnehring
Makes sense to me.

The dude was a Ron Paul supporter. Not because Ron Paul is a white supremacist, but because Ron Paul agrees with the von Brunns of the world that the USA should be isolationist and avoid foreign wars.

However, Ron Paul's isolationist views come from an honest difference of opinion and aren't based on hatred for Jews like the von Brunns and David Dukes of the world.

But let's be clear and hammer this point home. von Brunn, David Duke, Ahmedinejad, Hitler, Arafat, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem all have one thing in common: all of their beliefs are predicated on their hatred of Jews. Jew hatred is their core, undying, immutable belief.

How do you negotiate with people who harbor such deep hatred for Jews? Until liberals (like Obama) acknowledge the deep anti-Semitism that runs rampant throughout the world, especially the Muslim world (well documented by MEMRI), they will remain naive and blind to the real problem. But to the liberal mind, only the Klan and Nazis hate Jews... it is incomprehensible to them that there are exponentially more Islamic extremists hellbent on killing Jews than there are white supremacists out to do the same.

28 posted on 06/11/2009 11:19:09 AM PDT by ikeonic
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To: mnehring
The suggestion that the Standard may have been a target complicates any view...

LOL...

Translation: This blows the template the media was ready to go with.

Translation 2: This will be a non-news story by tomorrow.
29 posted on 06/11/2009 11:19:12 AM PDT by nhwingut (The media's love affair with Obama reminds me of a dog humping a telephone pole.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Thanks, I had never read that. It’s worth saving.


30 posted on 06/11/2009 11:19:24 AM PDT by Eva (union motto - Aim for mediocrity, it's only fair.)
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To: mnehring; Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Von Brunn's published rants included attacks on "neocons,"

BUT BUT BUT the media's been saying that it the neocon movement that is CREATING these kind of violent FOLLOWERS.

31 posted on 06/11/2009 11:19:25 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (June 4, 2009 - the day Barack Obama threw all of America under the bus.)
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To: mnehring

Interesting. Wonder if MSNBC will point this out? Or any of the Leftist outlets?? Nah. They want a double-standard to apply so the lemmings will blame the GOP,conservatives and Christians when voting!!!


32 posted on 06/11/2009 11:20:35 AM PDT by phillyfanatic ( iT)
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To: mnehring
FBI agents visited the offices of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine yesterday after a shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum and told employees they'd found the magazine's address

Nice English skills.
33 posted on 06/11/2009 11:20:51 AM PDT by Vision (Obama is a jive turkey)
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To: mnehring
The suggestion that the Standard may have been a target complicates any view of the racist shooter in contemporary left-right terms. Von Brunn's white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a "right-wing extremist," but the substance of his views -- which included everything from believing that President Bush may have been in on the September 11 attacks to denying that President Obama is an American citizen -- are too far on the fringe to fit into conventional political classification.

ONLY because the Left insist that Fascism is from the Right, not the Left (as it is).

There's plenty of antisemitism among the so-called anti-war movement, they are decidedly pro-Palestinian war and even support the use of suicide bombers against Israelis.

34 posted on 06/11/2009 11:21:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (June 4, 2009 - the day Barack Obama threw all of America under the bus.)
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To: ikeonic

9-11 truthers found a welcome home in the Ron Paul 2008 campaign. He may not have given them full support, but he didn’t chase them off with a stick either. And he did court them.


35 posted on 06/11/2009 11:23:22 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (June 4, 2009 - the day Barack Obama threw all of America under the bus.)
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To: manc
notice how the left/media do not mention that the shooter is left wing or he is a registered Democrat.

I've seen this repeated numerous times today in comments, but have seen no source for the claim - do you have one?

The fact is, I think it is a meaningless exercise to try to place this guy (or others like him) into any "mainstream" political party or category. Reading through his "book" (it's on his website, www.holyromanempire.org, which is offline, but available through www.archive.org), it's clear that this von Brunn nutcase is not right-wing/conservative (he rants against freedom and democracy), but also that he is not left-wing/liberal (he repeatedly rants against Democrats and liberals/liberalism). Von Brunn and many of those like him view the entire political spectrum as nothing more than a Jewish conspiracy to create disharmony among white people.

As convenient as it is to try to call this guy a liberal (and as convenient as it is for the DUmmies to try to call him a conservative), the fact of the matter is, nutcases like von Brunn exist outside of the political spectrum. He's not a left-wing nutcase. He's not a right-wing nutcase. He's just a nutcase-nutcase.

36 posted on 06/11/2009 11:24:46 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: MrB

Michael Weiner/Savage called Ann Coulter a Jew hater. He believes her to be among the worst type of anti-semite, neo-nazi type.


38 posted on 06/11/2009 11:25:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (June 4, 2009 - the day Barack Obama threw all of America under the bus.)
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To: mnehring

When you go far enough right you come out left.


39 posted on 06/11/2009 11:25:40 AM PDT by Borges
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To: mnehring

40 posted on 06/11/2009 11:26:37 AM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: a fool in paradise

Any honest Christian who is knowledgeable of his/her religion would like to see Jews accept Jesus.

Unfortunately, that concept is seen by some as anti-semitic.


41 posted on 06/11/2009 11:27:25 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
...it's clear that this von Brunn nutcase is not right-wing/conservative (he rants against freedom and democracy), but also that he is not left-wing/liberal (he repeatedly rants against Democrats and liberals/liberalism).

Lyndon LaRouche's followers are old Democrats, as opposed to New Democrats (of the Obama-Ayers crowd, post 1968).

Lyndon LaRouche's followers are rabidly anti-semitic and conspiracy minded kooks to boot.

But Lyndon LaRouche continues to run as a DEMOCRAT as do his supporters.

42 posted on 06/11/2009 11:27:27 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (June 4, 2009 - the day Barack Obama threw all of America under the bus.)
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To: TC Rider

Yeah, he’s real independent... Anytime he talks politics it is slanted heavily against the GOP.


43 posted on 06/11/2009 11:29:46 AM PDT by amishman (0bama=the reincarnation of Jim Jones)
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To: Eva

It’s from Marx’s “On the Jewish Qustion”.

Hitler’s “Final Solution” was the answer to Marx’s question.


44 posted on 06/11/2009 11:30:47 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: a fool in paradise
9-11 truthers found a welcome home in the Ron Paul 2008 campaign.

Indeed. And you'll find that almost all anti-Semites (like David Duke, von Brunn, Ahmadinejad, etc.) also deny the official story of 9/11 (though I certainly don't believe the reverse it true -- not all truthers are Jew haters, but almost all Jew haters are truthers)

In Ahmedinejad's own words:

There was an event called September 11, the cause of which remains unknown and, like the Holocaust, a true investigation was not permitted.

Directly or indirectly, Islamic extremists and white supremacists believe that 9/11 and the Holocaust are both Jewish conspiracies. They (yeah, I'm talking about you, Rev Wright!) use the codeword "Zionist", but we all know what they mean.

45 posted on 06/11/2009 11:34:27 AM PDT by ikeonic
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

The difference being that Marx (who was born Jewish) saw Judaism as cultural and Hitler saw it as racial.


46 posted on 06/11/2009 11:37:20 AM PDT by Borges
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Von Brunn's white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a "right-wing extremist,"

Pick up a F^#&ing history book and open it! The KKK has been since the day it was formed a militant wing of the Democrat party.

White Supremacist are Left wing nuts, not right wing. The Left has done such a good job of painting the Right with lies over the past 8 years that those lies are now accepted and reported as fact.

 Pay attention you idiot leftist reporters, here are pictures to make it easy:

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Martin Luther King, Jr. - Right wing, Conservative, Republican

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Bull Conner - Left wing, Liberal, Democrat.

47 posted on 06/11/2009 11:39:14 AM PDT by txroadkill (Vote Democrat - it's easier than working!)
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To: mnehring

I think MSNBC will focus in on the fact that he had the Weekly Standard address in order to renew his subscription. Cementing their premise that he was in fact a right wing terrorist.


48 posted on 06/11/2009 11:43:07 AM PDT by sox_the_cat
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To: icwhatudo

And a Birther? Ah, ha! He’s a Hillary Clinton supporter.


49 posted on 06/11/2009 11:43:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is Brewing!! Tea Party Express/Taxpayer March on DC 09.12.09!!)
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To: amishman

Handelman and ‘Brad and Britt’ are Curtis Media’s insurance against the Fairness Doctrine.

Handelman is like the flaming homosexual whe continually refuses to come out of the closet. Obvious to all around him that he’s a full bleeding heart liberal, whenever he opens his mouth, but refuses to admit it.


50 posted on 06/11/2009 11:48:49 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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