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Florida Police Fatally Shoot Man in His Bedroom (Administrative leave!!!!)
Foxnews ^ | 6/15/2009 | Staff

Posted on 06/15/2009 7:48:27 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: Red in Blue PA
“Well, I had to shoot him..He might’ve hurt himself!”

I wonder if that's going to be a defense.

61 posted on 06/15/2009 8:28:01 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Glennb51

I don’t think he’s the only reason...


62 posted on 06/15/2009 8:28:42 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: jagusafr

Chicken colonel?


63 posted on 06/15/2009 8:29:11 AM PDT by theDentist (qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: count-your-change
“Well, I had to shoot him..He might’ve hurt himself!” I wonder if that's going to be a defense.

And some people here will defend that as a defense!
64 posted on 06/15/2009 8:29:11 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

I come from a police family. My mother, 3 uncles and a grandfather were all cops...(my mother was only a special officer who was called in to witness processing females, the rest of the time she was chief dispatcher) and GOOD cops. That 40-60% may be high but not by much. Police departments attract alot of steroid pumping muscle brained bullies who couldn’t function in society if not behind a badge.


65 posted on 06/15/2009 8:30:30 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Cathy
Where is there evidence these officers did not know what they are doing?

If you go to stop someone from cutting them selve and you end up shooting them to death then YOU DID IT WRONG!
66 posted on 06/15/2009 8:30:54 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Travis T. OJustice

I have only work worked for two different Offices. Fortuantely, both Sheriffs let it be known that it would not be tolerated. I have seen people fired and if applicable, charged.

It is encouraged to report behaviour that is illegal or in violation of the GO.


67 posted on 06/15/2009 8:31:09 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: Red in Blue PA

They can taser a 75-year-old woman at a traffic stop.

They can taser a chihuahua (before shooting it).

You’d think *this* would be a perfect situation for a taser.

But no.


68 posted on 06/15/2009 8:31:56 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Glennb51

Free Republic was a better place before we started attracting statist slaves like you, newbie.


69 posted on 06/15/2009 8:32:07 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
See how silly that looks?

I thought it was silly to begin with.

70 posted on 06/15/2009 8:32:38 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Cathy
How do you know these officers weren’t in danger or threatened? Again, please report your eyewitness account because they need your information.

Then they should have retreated from the scene! Left the bedroom...called for competent help. I've stated that several times already. I don't have to be a witness to make common sense judgements.

71 posted on 06/15/2009 8:34:49 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Cathy

No it sounds like murder under color of badge.


72 posted on 06/15/2009 8:36:09 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Red in Blue PA
And some people here will defend that as a defense!

LOL...you're damned right they will!

73 posted on 06/15/2009 8:36:25 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: pgkdan
I guess they didn’t understand that they were there to try and save the guy’s life.

BINGO!!!

74 posted on 06/15/2009 8:36:57 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Cathy
Oh my God, so now cops can’t shoot people.

Are you freaking kidding me? They shot they guy they came to save. Yes, cops should not do that. They can't claim selfe defense if they escolated the situation. Just like I can't go pick a fight with a big biker dude and then shoot him with my legally carried gun and then claim self defense. If I start or escolate a fight then it is not self defense.

If they thought going into this guys room would help then they were clearly wrong. Period. They made a mad call. I am SURE the guy did something stupid. However had the cops made the rigth call they would not have been in the position to have to shoot him. They were in control of when and where and how the confrontation too place. They chose those conditions. They did it wrong. They should be held accountable. When 'failure to follow police instructions' is an instant capitol offense then we all become slaves.
75 posted on 06/15/2009 8:37:31 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: pgkdan

Elitest I have a life. You need have to have a forum to spout stupidity running rampant in your brain. Been here quite a while, actually. What would you do if your parents started charging you rent?


76 posted on 06/15/2009 8:38:09 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: Red in Blue PA

I have to support the police on this one.

First of all, his relatives called the police, so *they* were scared. They may or may not have told the police dispatcher that he was schizophrenic and had been drinking, both of which could be extremely dangerous when armed.

Second, just because someone may be suicidal, doesn’t mean that they also are not homicidal.

Third, appearance *does* matter. If you look like a raving, intoxicated lunatic, don’t be surprised if people are apprehensive when near you.

And fourth, how large do you suppose that bedroom is? This means the police are close enough to the man that he could easily close the gap between them in a single second. And he has a knife.

Had I been the police officer in question, under the circumstances even a Taser doesn’t even come close. If you use a billy club, there is a very good chance you would get slashed.

Sorry, Charlie.


77 posted on 06/15/2009 8:38:49 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: PLMerite
You’d think *this* would be a perfect situation for a taser.

Here locally they tazered a guy at a shooting range to arrest him. Both cop were shot and killed. Sometimes you should shoot and sometimes you should tazer and sometimes you should think again before confronting.
78 posted on 06/15/2009 8:40:12 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Glennb51

Gee that’s clever. I’m humbled by you’re wit. Now why don’t you go taser somebody’s grandmother and get your jolly’s.


79 posted on 06/15/2009 8:41:52 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
...Morales was threatening himself with knives.

...fired two shots at Morales, who was hit twice in the torso and pronounced dead at a hospital.

Yep, that'll sure teach people not to threaten suicide. I'll bet the "relatives" are really glad they called in the police to protect him.

When your only tool is a gun, any solutions you come up with are likely to involve shooting.

80 posted on 06/15/2009 8:42:04 AM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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