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DRUGS WON THE WAR!
NYTimes ^ | 6.13.2009 | NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

Posted on 06/16/2009 12:43:47 PM PDT by wolfcreek

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It's time for the WOD to end. (for more than a few reasons)
1 posted on 06/16/2009 12:43:47 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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2 posted on 06/16/2009 12:46:05 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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And it’s been over 40 years since President Johnson started the war on poverty. I think poverty won that war. After 40+ years we still have about the same proportion of the population grappling with poverty.

I wish somebody would write an article about the failure of the war on poverty. We can and should discuss the war on drugs. Drugs have caused lots of devastation to our country. But the war on poverty and its abject failure has similarly had huge negative consequences. And these consequences never get talked about.

Nixon’s war on drugs was an evil Republican war, perhaps?

Whereas LBJ’s war on poverty was a good Democrat war.


3 posted on 06/16/2009 12:46:42 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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It's time for the WOD to end.

Agreed 100%.

4 posted on 06/16/2009 12:47:05 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Whenever the Government declares a war on anything, it is actually a war on our “Rights.” In that respect, both the war on poverty, and the war on drugs have been a huge success.


5 posted on 06/16/2009 12:51:17 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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Whenever the Government declares a war on anything, it is actually a war on our “Rights.” In that respect, both the war on poverty, and the war on drugs have been a huge success.

Ding, ding, ding, ding....thread over, we have our winner!!

6 posted on 06/16/2009 12:56:28 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: wolfcreek

And just think, Obama may be ending the war on terror......


7 posted on 06/16/2009 12:57:57 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I thought FDR went to war against pot. And cocaine had been criminalized before that.


8 posted on 06/16/2009 12:59:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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How’s MADD’s zero.zero war on drunk driving going? States, insurance, and lawyers are doing quite well from it.


9 posted on 06/16/2009 1:00:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
IMO, the WOD and the WOP go hand in hand.

We have upwards of 1.5 million otherwise peaceful individuals sitting in OUR tax payer funded prisons for nothing more than simple possession.

Those folks could be working, paying taxes and supporting their families.

We're paying for the WOD and the WOP, coming and going while politicians and corrupt LEOs are raking in the benefits.

10 posted on 06/16/2009 1:07:22 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: wolfcreek

The NY Times is always right and the Caps Lock is really convincing.


11 posted on 06/16/2009 1:09:26 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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You absolutely correct. End those wars and we could spend that money repairing our debt and have a BADDER ASS military.
12 posted on 06/16/2009 1:10:46 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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We have upwards of 1.5 million otherwise peaceful individuals sitting in OUR tax payer funded prisons for nothing more than simple possession.

BS

Those folks could be working, paying taxes and supporting their families.

Piled Higher and Deeper.

13 posted on 06/16/2009 1:10:52 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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It’s also time for the war on poverty to end. That one’s being going on longer, and it’s proven a dismal failure.


14 posted on 06/16/2009 1:11:08 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Moonman62

I just wish the pro legalization crowd would be a little wiser about who they accept as allies.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/soros-infiltrates-conservative-movement/


15 posted on 06/16/2009 1:12:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Moonman62

Hey, don’t kill the messenger. Broke clock and all that....


16 posted on 06/16/2009 1:13:14 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Moonman62
Yes, Kristof is right on this.

At least the Temperance Union and the Anti-Saloon League had the decency to pass a Constitutional Amendment to further their prohibionists goals.

The pro-drug war folks have no such decency, or any Constitutional loyalty that stops them from supporting a policy of prohibition by fiat.

17 posted on 06/16/2009 1:17:28 PM PDT by GunRunner
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“It’s time for the WOD to end. (for more than a few reasons)”

Which isn’t to say we have to legalize everything or give up on efforts to prevent destructive addictions, but clearly approaching drug abuse almost entirely as a law enforcement problem has not been very effective. OTOH, alcohol is legal and it continues to be a problem, and abuse of it appears to me to be even a growing problem among young adults. I don’t know what the answer is.


18 posted on 06/16/2009 1:18:05 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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Those folks could be working, paying taxes and supporting their families.

Just curious what percentage of them you think would actually do this.

19 posted on 06/16/2009 1:18:28 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: wolfcreek

Perhaps, but I’d like to know why so many of these left-wing douchenozzles who are advocating to end the war on drugs and decriminalize marijuana are working so hard at the same time to criminalize tobacco and cigarettes.


20 posted on 06/16/2009 1:18:37 PM PDT by jpl (Help us Obambi Wan Kenobi, you're our only dope.)
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