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With the Supreme Court, beginning in 2004, imposing more and more criminal-justice procedure on the battlefield, the McCain Amendment would almost certainly be used by courts or a Democratic administration to impose Miranda protocols not just on FBI agents conducting criminal investigations (which is what it’s meant for) in foreign countries, but on U.S. military and intelligence agents conducting combat and covert operations. That would be the death knell not of the “torture” over which McCain obsessed but of any effective intelligence collection.

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5 posted on 06/17/2009 7:30:17 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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6 posted on 06/17/2009 7:31:35 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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Back around 1975, Senator Frank Church held hearings on the operation of the CIA and found that -- HORRORS -- taxpayer money was being paid to foreign citizen snitches who had CRIMINAL RECORDS for vital human, on-the-ground intel on the activities of those who were planning the destruction of this country. Church commented at one session that "Gentlemen do not read other gentlemens’ mail." Interesting how Church and his fellow Dimocraps viewed men who would destroy America “gentlemen.” Glad that a**hole didn't serve during the run-up to WWII. (Although he may have handled the "delayed" communication to Pearl Harbor that the Japanese were on the way!)

When he became president, Jimmy Carter fully supported and enforced the Church Amendment. The sorts of people who consort with -- and, more importantly, get cozy with -- the leaders of terrorist organizations are not normally choir boys. Church moved the legislature to PROHIBIT any US funds going to these potential informants. Since it can take upwards of 20 years for these guys to move close enough to the top to be seriously valuable, we had virtually NO humintel on bin Laden's plans for 9-11!

While there are still Church-like imbeciles (Reid, Pelosi, et come to mind) at the levers of power here, I THINK the law has been changed.

While the NSA wiretaps and eavesdrops on US citizens HERE, isn't it comforting to know that in just 15 or 20 years we may be able to thwart a plan hatched THERE for some future 9-11 with information gathered THERE.

Now our guys are required to MERANDIZE enemy combatants NOT wearing uniforms and displaying NO recognizable military patches, etc., etc., all of which, de facto, removes them from the protections afforded under the Geneva Convention. In past conflicts, the Geneva Convention permits the capturing forces to shoot these guys on the spot. Of course, any trooper caught doing that would be up on charges in the morning.

Anybody else see a pattern here?

“Whom God would destroy, He first makes mad.”

9 posted on 06/17/2009 8:02:30 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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