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1 posted on 06/17/2009 9:05:43 AM PDT by mojito
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=a62_boqkurbI


2 posted on 06/17/2009 9:05:59 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Fascinating story.


4 posted on 06/17/2009 9:12:26 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: FromLori; Travis McGee

Ping.


6 posted on 06/17/2009 9:13:16 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mojito

In 2002 Don Johnson of Miami Vice was caught with $8 BILLION in securities?????? YIKES...I do not recall hearing about that....is it true?? What happened to him?


8 posted on 06/17/2009 9:16:15 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mojito
Wow, what a story. Thanks for posting.

Driving from Italy to Switzerland has been a piece of cake for decades. This must have been tipped.

12 posted on 06/17/2009 9:22:37 AM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: mojito
He almost got away with it


15 posted on 06/17/2009 9:26:38 AM PDT by FreepShop1
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How much of our national debt is in bearer bonds cashable by whoever is holding them as opposed to ones that have to be registered like most stocks and bonds are?

The billion dollar question is "counterfeit or real?" If they are real, then someone big is secretly abandoning the dollar and that is very bad news for us. It's like smelling smoke in a theater and trying to walk quietly to the fire escape because yelling "FIRE!" might get you trampled.

16 posted on 06/17/2009 9:29:15 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: mojito; TigerLikesRooster; sickoflibs; NVDave; FromLori

Biggest story of the year. Too bad the MSM is in the pocket of dems - this stroy will break what little credibility they have left.


17 posted on 06/17/2009 9:30:51 AM PDT by GOPJ (ABC's a dem whore - cheap and easy.)
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"If in fact previous administrations were issuing "off-book" Treasury debt in this fashion to sovereigns then implications are truly explosive as such issues are blatant and outrageous unlawful acts and would expose everyone involved to severe criminal penalties."

Let the chips fall where they may.

21 posted on 06/17/2009 9:34:37 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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Here is another interesting article on this subject. Note the strange coincidence that the $134.5 Billion just happens to EXACTLY match the $134.5 Billion the Treasury department reported was left in the TARP a few weeks ago!

http://seekingalpha.com/article/143462-strange-inconsistencies-in-the-134-5-billion-bearer-bond-mystery

This is a huge story in Europe and Asia, but hardly gets any notice in our State Run Media here. I wonder why?


26 posted on 06/17/2009 9:55:58 AM PDT by SDShack (Obamanomics = Economics + Moronics)
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HUMMM!

These men carrying bonds concealed in the bottom of their luggage also would be the fourth-largest U.S. creditors. It makes you wonder if some of the time Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner spends keeping the Chinese and Japanese invested in dollars should be devoted to well-financed men crossing the Italian-Swiss border.

27 posted on 06/17/2009 9:58:26 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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I remember reading about this on FR several days ago. Curiously none of the links now indicate on what day this is purported to have happened.

Didn't these guys watch The French Connection to know of hollow car doors and the infamous "rocker panels"? With $134B on the line, Daniel Craig in a bristlingly-armed Aston Martin would have been far more appropriate. OTOH, maybe the Carabinieri need to check the rocker panels and side doors.

Gratuitous Carabinieri joke:
Q: How does one sink a Carabinieri submarine?
A: Swim down and knock on the hatch.

HF

31 posted on 06/17/2009 10:04:38 AM PDT by holden
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“...At a minimum, it would suggest that the U.S. risks losing control over its monetary supply on a massive scale...”


We may have already lost control


32 posted on 06/17/2009 10:09:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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Amazing-

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1119-The-Saga-Of-The-Bearer-Bonds.html

So let’s assume that the certificates are real, as German media seems to believe and which, by the way, makes logical sense given what they were and the sheer impossibility of cashing a fake $500 million bond.”

“Ok, who has $130 billion in bearer bonds? Remember, bearer instruments haven’t been issued by the Treasury since 1982, when they became illegal to issue, at least to US institutions and residents (there was an exception carved out for Treasury instruments issued to non-US residents in 1985 - a time of high deficits) The answer to that question: it is rather unlikely that there remains $130 billion of legitimate US Bearer issuance outstanding anywhere - to anyone.”

“So what remains? Let’s run a theory here - one of the few possible remaining options, given the exclusion of what we know not to be true...

Are we willing to assume that all the “issue” of Treasury bonds has been done “above board” as required by law. If Treasury has been surreptitiously issuing bonds to, say, Japan, as a means of financing deficits that someone didn’t want reported over the last, oh, say 10 or 20 years, then the following is about to occur”


33 posted on 06/17/2009 10:10:55 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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Yeah, should of hired “The Transporter” he would have got it over the border.

As noted, anybody buying a billion dollar bond sure as hell is going to get it validated by the US Treasury Dept. Not going to happen any other way. So they are real

Our government’s silence on it gives me the impression they are involved.

If so sounds like some people should be going to jail


37 posted on 06/17/2009 10:21:07 AM PDT by underbyte (TEOTEWAKI)
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I read something on Free Republic last fall about billions of stocks/bonds being sold off suddenly and Wall Street stopped trading at 11 AM. Does anyone remember this?
39 posted on 06/17/2009 10:30:33 AM PDT by lucky american (Glenn Beck Rocks!!!)
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Just a couple of rich Japanese looking for a safe place to keep their money. Couldn’t find one in Italy so headed to Switzerland. Germany would have been next.

Move along, move along please.


50 posted on 06/17/2009 10:59:32 AM PDT by green iguana
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A couple of Japanese guys wanted to move 134 Billion to Switzerland and rather than chartering a private jet to fly directly to their destination, they took a commercial flight to Italy and rented a car, so as to save money?

Would they have been searched all that hard arriving in Switzerland by private charter?


60 posted on 06/17/2009 11:13:32 AM PDT by KC Burke (...but He has made the trains run on time.)
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To: JasonC; Toddsterpatriot

While I’m at it, I might as well ask those of you who have increased my understanding of macroeconomics what your take is on this.


80 posted on 06/17/2009 4:27:28 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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Wow.

Need to follow this some more


83 posted on 06/17/2009 6:28:57 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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