Skip to comments.[from 2008] Walter Cronkite, Vietnam, and the Decline of Media Credibility
Posted on 06/19/2009 7:14:12 AM PDT by ETL
Who won and who lost in the great Tet offensive against the cities? Im not sure. The Vietcong did not win by a knockout, but neither did we. The referees of history may make it a draw.
It seems now more certain than ever that the bloody experience of Vietnam is to end in a stalemate.
But it is increasingly clear to this reporter that the only rational way out then will be to negotiate, not as victors, but as honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend democracy, and did the best they could. (Emphases added)
We paid a high price, but so did you not only in lives and material After Tet the Americans had to back down and come to the negotiating table, because the war was not only moving into dozens of cities and towns in South Vietnam, but also to the living rooms of Americans back home for some time. The most important result of the Tet offensive was it made you de-escalate the bombing, and it brought you to the negotiation table. It was, therefore, a victory The war was fought on many fronts. At that time the most important one was American public opinion. (The Vietnam War: An Encyclopedia of Quotations, Howard Langer, 2005)
On April 30, 1977, Pol Pots troops launched a surprise attack on 13 villages in eight Vietnamese border provinces. Ba Chuc was the hardest hit. The massacre was at its fiercest during the 12 days of occupation, April 18-30, 1978, during which the intruders killed 3,157 villagers. The survivors fled and took refuge in the pagodas of Tam Buu and Phi Lai or in caves on Mount Tuong, but they were soon discovered. The raiders shot them, slit their throats or beat them to death with sticks. Babies were flung into the air and pierced with bayonets. Women were raped and left to die with stakes planted in their genitals.
And when we withdrew...millions and I mean MILLIONS were slaughtered as the communist N. Vietnamese moved fully into S. Vietnam and into next door neighbot-Cambodia.
We did not need to QUIT, we needed to RESOLVE TO WIN, something liberals can only do in elections.
Old Walter got into reporting on body bags returning instead of the actual news of the major battles, and even those were cast through the sorry lens of liberals who believe that their freedom was entirely free and that we have no responsibility to help those who yearn for freedom around the globe.
Cronkite was a traitor...is a traitor. He admits now to having always been a globalist and always working for globalism. Especially as a new anchor. He screwed the South Vietnamese and every American service person who ever served in Viet Nam and rendered useless the sacrifice made by those who died or were wounded. He stabbed the Viet Nam vet in the back.
Well said. Thank you.
You are correct and, as usual, he is a liberal hero. Whenever I see his name being used as a tribute to journalism, I want to barf.
Chronkite is directly responsible for at least some of our casualties in Vietnam..as well as those among the South Vietnamese... and he's also directly responsible for the extra 10-15 years the Soviet bloc was able to stand...for if we had won in Vietnam the USSR would have fallen much sooner.
Chronkite is,no doubt,an atheist...like most prominent RATS but I'm convinced that he has a *very* unpleasant surprise in store for himself.
At least Uncle Walter made it relatively clear he was giving his opinion. In today’s media outright lies and Obama White House propaganda are reported as real news slavishly “backed-up” with phony facts or outright fabrications.
I didn't realize how spot on that was until I was much older.
"...if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."-J.F. Kerry
"Under questioning from the Committee, Kerry referred to the democratically elected government of South Vietnam -- our allies -- as a "dictatorial regime, the Thieu-Ky-Khiem regime," while respectfully calling the North Vietnamese communist regime we were fighting by its oxymoronic official name, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, and the murderous Viet Cong's political arm by their preferred "Provisional Revolutionary Government.":
June, 1970 -- Kerry joins Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), a national veterans group that is part of the Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice. The PCPJ is a broad coalition of local and national organizations, including the Communist Party, USA, "committed to conducting demonstrations aimed at ending the war in Indochina, and poverty, racism and injustice at home." The VVAW, CCI and PCPJ all have headquarters at 156 Fifth Avenue in New York City. VVAW Executive Secretary Al Hubbard, a former Black Panther, is also on the coordinating committee of the PCPJ. Hubbard soon appoints Kerry to the VVAW's Executive Committee, bypassing the normal election process.
Fact: The Black Panthers were revolutionary communists...
From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s/original] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS
"On May 1st, May Day , the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.
Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.
The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."
To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."
Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience:
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."
Photo link: "Jane Fonda and John Kerry at an anti-war rally in Valley Forge, Pa. (Leif Skoogfors/Corbis)"
[note: we're not permitted to post this pic without permission from the photographer. this is a different photo than one at top -etl]
The photo is genuine. Here is what Jane Fonda herself had to say about it:
"My reaction is that the American people have had it with the big lie. Any attempt to link Kerry to me and make him look bad with that connection is completely false. We were at a rally for veterans at the same time. I spoke, Donald Sutherland spoke, John Kerry spoke at the end. I don't even think we shook hands."
Source for quote: same snopes article linked above
Ramsey Clark, former U.S. attorney general under democrat LBJ with convicted terrorist enabler/commie lawyer, Lynne Stewart, at an "anti-war" rally in Harlem NY on March 19, 2005, the 2nd anniversary of the start of the Iraq War. The event was organized by the Workers World Party and "Troops Out Now". TON is an "anti-war" (pro-communist) Workers World Party front group.
John Kerry and the VVAW--Hanoi's American Puppets?
"Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman."
Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) Complete FBI files:
What a douchebag.
I agree. Walter cheated his large American audience night after night with his own demented bias. If ONLY I had known then what I know now.
Thanks! Lots of great ones there!
You and me both.
If Cronkite and his ilk could have their way, they would do the same to Iraq.
The German did not expect to win from the battle.. it was to affect policy on the allies to get a political concession to get that stalemate....
From time and distance Tet and the Battle of the Bulge look about the same in a military perspective
Uncle Walter gave the NV what the German didn't get, that propaganda helping hand to break the will on the home front
Interesting summary and analysis.
Thanks. That's what it's all about for these lefties in influential positions: breaking the will of the American people.
Cronkite should demand a salary from the Birch Society.