Posted on 06/23/2009 5:35:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
“Conservatives have to allow our candidates to run as “moderates” in places like the Northeast, Western California and now Northern VA.”
ROFL! Where and when did the Mod Squad ask PERMISSION from the conservatives over who to run and how?
I somehow missed that. Time and again, the ones running in these places are moderates.
“By “moderate” I mean allow them to essentially ignore social wedge issues for the general election in these areas.”
Yeah, those issues that help us build a governing majority, instead of being a rump minority of country clubbers. Gotcha.
To be perfectly honest, those issues now find us in the minority.
And really, something nobody looks at is the impact the Neo-Cons had on our movement
Fi-cons have been pushed to the corner and forgotten about.
I bet you if Peter Schiff runs, he crushes Dodd in Connecticut.
Dodd...before Obama, was the epitome of DemocRAT corruption and duplicity.
False.
Run real conservatives...and nuke the State Media at the same time...and they would win.
They don't even have to drop one. Once they get theirs plus a delivery system, and make some International grab/raid we don't like, all the mullahs have to say is "Yeah, you can nuke us 'til we glow but we'll be able to get one off. You willing to trade [fill in a U.S. city] for all of Iran?
Obama & Crew, and mebba all others would fold like a tent.
“Fi-cons have been pushed to the corner and forgotten about.”
What are you talking about? Talk radio is nothing but financial conservatism these days. It’s boring as blazes.
The moderates want to surrender the whole social playing field to the Democrats.
Bwahaha.
Peter Schiff understands how to present fiscal conservativsm.
Glenn Beck does too
Rush, Sean Hannity, Levin. No sir
Conservatives have to allow our candidates to run as “moderates” in places like the Northeast, Western California and now Northern VA.
By “moderate” I mean allow them to essentially ignore social wedge issues for the general election in these areas.
IMHO, you missed the show. They knocked off mostly RINOs in the Northeast with more liberal rats starting in 2006. In the rest of the country, the rats moved to the right running pro Second Amendment and prolife candidates like Casey in PA.
I agree with that. The Dems have become smart in that regard, running pro 2A people like Heath Shuler in certain areas.
Which is exactly my point. In the Northeast we need more people like Peter Schiff to run, those who are intelligent on economic and fiscal issues and really don’t carry the “baggage” (as it is seen in the northeast) on social issues
As long as conservatives are told to stay with the liberal run Republican party and work from within that apparaus they will continue to be voiceless in politics. Until conservatives pull away from the Whig party and form their own party they had better get used to being out of power.
“To be perfectly honest, those issues now find us in the minority.”
What issues? Life/abortion, where for the first time more people are poling a prolife than prochoice?
Shool choice, supported by most people?
Gay marriage, still opposed by most Americans?
“And really, something nobody looks at is the impact the Neo-Cons had on our movement”
Um, lots of people have used the ‘neo-con’ a foil for blame.
I tend to accuse the RINOs.
“Fi-cons have been pushed to the corner and forgotten about.”
Um, your proposal to let moderates run is a proposal to do exactly that - Ignore the fiscal conservatives. SO to me, you sound a bit confused and are taking potshots randomly at those who you think are to blame, using different labels ... which may or may not fit.
IMHO: You need to run real full-bore fiscal conservatives in some of these blue states to get the juices flowing again: Tax cuts, tort reform, school choice, welfare reform, and defense of traditional marriage are not unpopular items.
The problem with the moderate-GOPers is that they run on NOTHING except a bit of “Demo-lite” stuff. They dont stand up on moral issues and they dont stand up on fiscal issues, except on the margins. It’s too weak to get conservative voters who make up a plurality of voters EVEN IN BLUE STATES to get excited.
We need a big tent, but that big tent includes conservatives.
JMHO.
“As long as conservatives are told to stay with the liberal run Republican party”
Not true. Your states RNC Committee man and -woman are not liberals.
“Until conservatives pull away from the Whig party and form their own party they had better get used to being out of power.”
Ah, yes “Divided we Stand” - splitting into unelectable third parties has only failed a dozen times before, the 13th time will surely be so *lucky* for us.
“I bet you if Peter Schiff runs, he crushes Dodd in Connecticut.”
You bet wrong. Schiff hasnt even bothered to VOTE most of his adult life. I read a guy who interviewed him and said he was the worst candidate interview he EVER did. The guy has no clue about politics and campaigns in the sense of most people who are politically active .. A smart analyst but a poor candidate. Wish I had the link to share, I cant find it.
“Which is exactly my point. In the Northeast we need more people like Peter Schiff to run, those who are intelligent on economic and fiscal issues and really don’t carry the “baggage” (as it is seen in the northeast) on social issues”
He’s anything BUT a moderate, he’s a RonPaul-type libertarian. BIG DIFF!
Let me add that a Schiff-type fiscal conservative would be the right type of candidate to run in NE in 2010.
(Although Schiff himself may have issues, see #35).
The economy and the lack of jobs will be issue #1 and we need strong people on that.
Romney won that way in 2002.
And the Whig (and now the modern day Republican party as well) failed when they failed to represent the base as is happening today. Yes, a separate party from the failing country club Republican party is the best way left for conservatives today.
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