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To: shove_it

I agree for the most part. We DON’T need government healthcare.

But Larry, the estimates for Medicare going forward are a nightmare. The elderly will suck our pockets dry and there are more of them coming on the books every day.

What politician has the guts to cut Medicare spending?

I was at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale and almost everyone was elderly. A 90 year old man, on his last legs, received a heart transplant. How did that happen? And why am I paying for it?


3 posted on 06/23/2009 5:51:46 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57

I’ll tell you why. Because of the lawyers. If the doctor doesn’t offer every conceivable treatment to Grandpa and he dies minutes before his time some long lost relative will surface and sue for negligence. Even if the case goes nowhere the doc has to spend money defending himself and his malpractice rates still go up. As a critical care nurse, I’ve seen it happen.


10 posted on 06/23/2009 6:04:50 AM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: whitedog57
I was at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale and almost everyone was elderly. A 90 year old man, on his last legs, received a heart transplant. How did that happen? And why am I paying for it?

What would your policy be on heart transplants? Who decides? FYI: Medicare does not pay all the costs for heart transplants. The vast majority of medicare recipients have supplementary insurance to cover the additional costs beyond what Medicare reimburses.

14 posted on 06/23/2009 6:07:08 AM PDT by kabar
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To: whitedog57
You are paying for it because the federal government passed legislation many years ago (in the 60’s I think) to establish medicare.

My Grandpa had White cross Ins. at the time which was better than the gov’t Ins, but he had to sign up for medicare anyway. When you turn 65 these days, there is for all practical purposes no choice now.

I do not believe in government provided universal health insurance. However, I would point out that in one sense we are all paying for health care for those people who are unfortunate enough to become ill.

We all understand that corporate taxes are paid for by consumers, but then, so are the costs of doing business, including the cost of health care for the workers. So in a sense every elderly person is also paying for the younger people.

I have paid enormous amounts of premiums for private health Ins. and I would be rich if I just had back the unused dollars. I don't go around saying why should I have to pay for someone else-I just thank God that I am healthy and can pay my outlandish premiums.

Some young people do decide not to buy health insurance, those who are unlucky enough to get sick wind up in the emergency room and either make payment arrangements or simply ignore the bills. We all pay for that too at an extremely expensive rate.

I do not believe in government rationing health care-everyone should have the right to life, and the right to choose life or death, and that includes the elderly.

My father volunteered for most of his life first as a fireman, and then as a Paramedic,and many other less urgent areas. He risked his life to save others many times for no financial gain. He served his country in World War II.

He paid the with-holdings that everyone else paid. He was forced to retire at 65, but found a part-time job and helped the home-bound elderly with their cleaning and medications until age 79 when he needed bypass surgery.

The doctor's told him he had a 95% chance of surviving at the same quality. He liked those odds and he chose to have the surgery. It bought him 5 more years, and I thanked God everyday for that additional time, and I think he was just as entitled to that care as you are.

18 posted on 06/23/2009 6:49:36 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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