Posted on 06/24/2009 3:34:18 AM PDT by Man50D
It’s one thing when libs try to overcome market forces by regulation and force,
but when they are totally ignorant of how it works,
they definitely shouldn’t be in positions of power.
You can’t argue with such profound ignorance, especially when it is combined with such superfluous arrogance.
I am illogical then.
The 2010 election, starting first and foremost with the primaries. Diapers and politicians should be changed often and for the same reason. We need to make 2010 the year we FLUSH CONGRESS!
“President Barack Obama said it is not logical to think that a government-run health care program competing with private health insurers would eventually drive the private firms out of business.”
So Obamachev, tell us what private insurance company competes for senior health insurance. Why is there only a market in additional Medicare coverage? Huh?
Its one thing when libs try to overcome market forces by regulation and force, but when they are totally ignorant of how it works,..That's the key, they don't know how anything 'works' as most RAT pols never had 'a real job'. In one form or another they've always fed off the gubmint teat.
You cant argue with such profound ignorance, especially when it is combined with such superfluous arrogance.Yep. To them the gubmint is the answer to everything because that's all they know. Not one could hold down a 40 hour/wk 'real job' in the private sector where they are answerable for their actions (screw up once - hmmmm, okay. Twice - goodbye, see ya).
You are of course right. The 2010 elections are looking more crucial every day. Until then, we must lean hard on Congress to delay implementing any more of Mr. Obama's agenda.
In the longer run, we are faced with a bigger challenge. Obama is not the problem so much as a symptom. Millions of Americans believe that bigger government is the solution to all problems in life. Many want the government to take care of them; others are only too happy to oblige. It has taken nearly a century to get to this point; it may take that long to reverse the damage.
According to OpenSecrets’s data summarized in a Sunlight Foundation blog post yesterday, five former Baucus aides are presently lobbying on behalf of 27 different organizations with big stakes in the health care debate. These ex-staffers, either as in-house lobbyists or as part of private firms, are serving a comprehensive roster of tier-one insurers, pharmaceutical manufacturers and business advocacy groups such as Humana, Wal-Mart and Procter & Gamble. We’ve also profiled nearly two-dozen Baucus staffers that have gone through the “revolving door,” which ranks his office as the No. 7 slot on the most action between service in Congress and the lucrative private sector.
Among these, his former chief of staff, David Castagnetti, who took a spin through the revolving door when he became a lobbyist, has strong connections to Capitol Hill, including another stint as a staffer to Rep. Edward Markey (D-Mass.). Castagnetti’s firm, Mehlman Vogel Castagnetti, has already made $2.6 million this year. Castagnetti is personally lobbying in service of several health care players, including AstraZeneca, America’s Health Insurance Plans and Merck & Company. Among Castagnetti’s clients is also the Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA), a trade association that has already shelled out $7 million in lobbying expenses this year and $154.2 million since 1998. Only five companies, unions, or other organizations have spent more during that span.
ARTICLE FOUND HERE: http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/06/sunlight-maps-baucuss-health-c.html
Once again PROOF why the 17th Amendment MUST be Repealed . . . NOW . . . to go into effect on, say, January 1, 2016.
He truly is an idiot. The only reason to OFFER a public plan is if it is better than the private plans. If the public plan costs more than the private plan, or offers less, or isn’t the best plan around, nobody would want it, and there would be no reason to offer it.
And if taxpayers aren’t going to subsidize it, it wouldn’t cost a trillion dollars.
So obviously, the reason the public plan exists is because our tax dollars will pay for it so the people who are buying insurance don’t have to pay for it.
And that means that it will immediately have millions of members, and a trillion dollars to spend, which will allow it to dictate better prices in the market (that’s bribery and blackmail). The private companies won’t have enough people in their plans to match that coercion, so others will switch to the public plan because it will be cheaper.
He says nothing will change if your employer offers you a plan you like.
But the number one funding mechanism discussed is taxing your employer plan — which will most definitely effect your plan.
So he is lying.
There is never any debate about what he is doing in congress. The democrats don't allow debate in the house, and in the Senate they have set up to ignore the filibuster rule for health care so that opponents can't force anybody to debate the plan.
Wow, the list gets longer...
Now I’m an illogical gun-religion-truck clinging redneck.
Tell ya what Mr. President, here’s the challenge...
A battle of wits of your choosing:
IQ test, Trivial Pursuit, tongue-twisters, heck I’ll even ‘do-the-dozens’ - anytime, anywhere.
Until then, quit insulting me and mine.
LOL!
Yeah until you suggest to people that their employer will stop providing insurance coverage benefits because the public plan makes it uneconomical to do so. If they are pushed from their private plan to the public plan, their support for the public plan evaporates pretty quickly.
Thank you, Mr. ‘frikkin’ Spock!
Money quote. Definite megalomania.
Pompous idiots like Obama are easy to manipulate.
ROFL. That’s funny.
Because that's what monopolies do. They don't have to be run well. They are not subject to the whims of the marketplace.
It is frightening how little Obama understands the most basic aspects of economics. The idiot McCain said he himself was bad at it. Obama knows NOTHING of it.
Hey, Spock is who I thought of when I read this story first, too . . . like Obama, he was born outside of a American soil.
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