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Obama Refuses to Pledge He'd Accept Health Care Plan Limits On *His Own* Family
Vanity comments on this ABC article ^

Posted on 06/25/2009 6:46:24 AM PDT by quesney

Elites often propose health care solutions that limit options for the general public, secure in the knowledge that if they or their loves ones get sick, they will be able to afford the best care available, even if it's not provided by insurance.

Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to promise that he wouldn't seek such extraordinary help for his wife or daughters if they became sick and the public plan he's proposing limited the tests or treatment they can get.

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if "it's my family member, if it's my wife, if it's my children, if it's my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.

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Just like his choice to avoid DC's public K-12 schools and pick the elite Sidwell Friends for his own kids.

Governmet crap -- Good enough for you and yours, not for me and mine.

1 posted on 06/25/2009 6:46:24 AM PDT by quesney
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To: quesney

Don’t count on any charges of “hypocrisy” swaying any leftists away from full support of 0bama.

Leftists don’t even believe in the concept when it comes to their “elite” (of which they all consider themselves part of).

If you want to understand the mindset, think FEUDALISM. They are the nobility, the masses are the peasants. Different rules and laws for both groups.

In their viewpoint:
It is entirely DESIRABLE for them to have different rules.
And, it is entirely NECESSARY for them not to be constrained by the rules place on us. Constraining them would hinder their implementation (imposition) of their “superior vision” on the rest of us.


2 posted on 06/25/2009 6:49:30 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: quesney

Its good to be King


3 posted on 06/25/2009 6:49:34 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: boxerblues

“Its good to be King”

It sure is. Let them eat cake.


4 posted on 06/25/2009 6:50:14 AM PDT by quesney
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To: quesney

An excellent question to ask every congress critter.

Publicly.

Multiple times a day.

By scores of reporterettes and constituents.


5 posted on 06/25/2009 6:51:59 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 157 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: quesney

If the Republicans don’t run with this they are lamer than I thought.


6 posted on 06/25/2009 6:52:19 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: quesney

No offense but I had to click on the article to go read it to believe this audacity.


7 posted on 06/25/2009 6:53:57 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: quesney
the school choice- excellent comparison

Public school for thee- private school for my kids

WHO IN THE HECK wants obama and his legion of bureaucrats making health care decisions for them?????

8 posted on 06/25/2009 6:54:51 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: quesney

Our slogan should be....If it ain’t good enough for the President and the Congress, it ain’t good enough for us.


9 posted on 06/25/2009 6:56:05 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: quesney

Now just exactly what would this thug’s “pledge” mean anyway?


10 posted on 06/25/2009 6:56:15 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: quesney
Let them eat cake
Under the Obama Health Care Plan it would have to be sugar free, fat free, hormone free, taste free cake.
11 posted on 06/25/2009 6:56:47 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: jersey117

The GOP is pretty lame. Too many of them believe that if one foot is cut off, they should cut off the other one to be more balanced.


12 posted on 06/25/2009 6:56:53 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: silverleaf

I can understand a PRESIDENT sending his kids to a better, more easily secured school.

But it isn’t because he’s president that he’s demanding different rules for his family - it’s because he’s an elitist.


13 posted on 06/25/2009 6:56:53 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: MrB

Exactly right. Kudos. (Whatever kudos means).

And the reason that leftists and liberals cling to their political views is because of social anxieties. they are continuallyin a state of status panic. To accept reason and/or conservative ideas means a loss of social status. That’s it.


14 posted on 06/25/2009 6:57:09 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: quesney
Everybody else must take this health care policy EXCEPT Government workers.
They have their own insurance. And its the best that money can buy.
So why can't we all just join theirs?
15 posted on 06/25/2009 6:57:15 AM PDT by mickie
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Never be surprised. This is exactly what you get when you have the media not doing their job. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Obama is heading down that path as no one is keeping him in check.


16 posted on 06/25/2009 6:57:27 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: quesney

This idiot needs to be impeached yesterday.


17 posted on 06/25/2009 6:57:31 AM PDT by exit82 (Be vigilant--what is happening on Iran's streets may yet happen here in America.)
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To: silverleaf

If we apply Obama’s health care argument to schools... if public insurance is needed to keep private insurance honest, aren’t private school vouchers needed to keep public schools honest?


18 posted on 06/25/2009 6:57:35 AM PDT by Bryher1 (http://nhs77.blogspot.com/2008/10/why-is-news-so-full-of-things-that.html)
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To: quesney

Sure sounds like “Two Americas” to me.


19 posted on 06/25/2009 6:57:40 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: quesney
For Obama and the Dems, when it comes to health care, education, and benefits for themselves and their own families,

"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." - Animal Farm


20 posted on 06/25/2009 6:58:26 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: quesney

For God’s sake...

How long are we going to put up with this bastard and his cronies????

When are decent, moral, thinking people going to DO something about him???


21 posted on 06/25/2009 6:58:52 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Obama: slowly sucking the positive attitude out of the US since 11-4-08)
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To: Truth29
The GOP is pretty lame.

Understatement of the year. The GOP should have a megaphone and be shouting what is happening. But we hear almost nothing.

22 posted on 06/25/2009 6:59:03 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: jersey117

Don’t hold your breath waiting for this to get legs. If a Republican were to bring this up, he/she asked if the administration would adhere to what we are suppose to accept, the government media would ask him/her if they would vow to go along with that policy. Typical do as I say, not as I do.


23 posted on 06/25/2009 6:59:10 AM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: quesney
Peasant Care® (brought to you by your political elites):

It's good enough for YOU, but it's NOT good enough for them.

Shut up and shovel another load of cow crap, peasant! There's WORK to be done!

24 posted on 06/25/2009 6:59:16 AM PDT by an amused spectator (The money vampires fear garlands of lead & brass)
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To: jersey117
If the Republicans don’t run with this they are lamer than I thought.

Then I have to wonder how much you think, because they are lamer than I ever could have imagined. :)

Compare this thread with Steve Jobs Liver Transplant thread.

25 posted on 06/25/2009 7:00:17 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: quesney

I want access to the same health care plan obi has for himself and his family. If I can’t have it, why not? Are they more important than my family?


26 posted on 06/25/2009 7:00:32 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: an amused spectator

I think we need to shove the “feudalism” concept to the forefront.

The more you examine the mindset of these fascists, the more you see that this is what they want for our country.

Nobles and peasants. They own and control everything, we live at their mercy.


27 posted on 06/25/2009 7:00:43 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: an amused spectator
let them eat ice cream.


28 posted on 06/25/2009 7:01:29 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: jersey117

Jeez, Republicans -- how much of a more clear-cut case of elitism do you need before you rake this bozo over the coals?:
Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to promise that he wouldn't seek such extraordinary help for his wife or daughters if they became sick and the public plan he's proposing limited the tests or treatment they can get.

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if "it's my family member, if it's my wife, if it's my children, if it's my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care."


29 posted on 06/25/2009 7:01:47 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Oldpuppymax
“Now just exactly what would this thug’s “pledge” mean anyway?”

It means he would extend his health care plan to his illegal alien Aunt Ditsy (or whatever her name is) and his many brothers living in poverty in Africa.

30 posted on 06/25/2009 7:01:49 AM PDT by Never on my watch (You are in the most danger when you are in the company of pacifists.)
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To: squarebarb
Kudos, from the Greek κῦδος means "fame" and "renown" resulting from an act or achievement.
31 posted on 06/25/2009 7:02:09 AM PDT by Bobalu (If life was fair it would be the horse's turn to ride.)
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To: MrB

Imagine the most powerful man the world, huffing and puffing about protecting America and the world

but claiming helplessness in protecting the White House neighborhood public school to make it “safe” for his daughters

No one questions this logic. “safety” is not the major issue, regardless of what the democrats say


32 posted on 06/25/2009 7:02:16 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: exit82

Not impeached - RECALLED.


33 posted on 06/25/2009 7:03:31 AM PDT by BagCamAddict ("Wolverines!!")
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To: BP2

The demonstration of elitism won’t sway the core democrat, because they are all elitist wannabes at heart. They won’t be swayed until they discover that they indeed are NOT elite - but then it will be too late.

You may, however, sway some of the more ignorant who voted for “the cool black guy”.


34 posted on 06/25/2009 7:03:48 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: MrB; boxerblues; quesney; Jess Kitting
Peasant Care® (brought to you by your political elites)
35 posted on 06/25/2009 7:04:32 AM PDT by an amused spectator (The money vampires fear garlands of lead & brass)
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To: Always Right
I like! To the point and easy to understand for the 50% of Americans who just don't get it.
36 posted on 06/25/2009 7:05:38 AM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car and my doctor's office!)
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To: quesney

Republican’s should try to ammend the bill to say “It is illegal for any and all government employees (including elected officials and appointed officials) to receive healthcare outside of the public system. And that their names need to be masked when put on a waiting list for when services are scarce. Any attempt to circumvent the normal process to get better or quicker care is punishable by at a minimum 10 years in jail for all those involved—even those that just heard about it and didn’t report it.

That should pretty much kill this garbage bill.


37 posted on 06/25/2009 7:06:13 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: BP2
The republicans don't want to bring this up because they plan on using the same insurance Obama does, not the one you are stuck with. One day we will realize the republican politicians are for themselves before they are for us. They are all bums and should swing
38 posted on 06/25/2009 7:06:38 AM PDT by lynn4303
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To: jersey117

They’re not lame, they’re compromised.


39 posted on 06/25/2009 7:07:03 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: quesney

You can guarantee if Michelle was to get breast cancer she would be getting the very best care money can buy...the rest of us? Go to any Breast Cancer support message board and read the entries from the women in Canada to find out how your wives, mothers and daughters will be treated. Year long waits for MRI scans, denial of specific chemotherapies, etc...

All these Liberals who think socialized medicine is such a great idea (especially the women) really need to re-think their position.

It’s very easy to sit there and talk about how great socialized medicine will be when you are healthy...but when you have Cancer and are fighting for your life...perceptions tend to change real frigging quick.


40 posted on 06/25/2009 7:07:18 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: MrB
Thank you for stating that. I agree 100%, and wish that more conservatives/libertarians would realize this. I would ascribe more of a "tribal/clan" feeling to it, but feudalism is a good explanation as well.

It's the progressive vision of rule by "experts". The unwashed masses are too stupid to make their own decisions, that's why they need administrators dictators czars and the like to do the thinking for them.

41 posted on 06/25/2009 7:07:40 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: boxerblues
For years Osimba has been singing "I just can't wait to be king" just like Simba the lion cub from the Lion King movie did in the song, written by the lavender Elton John.

“I Just Can't Wait to be King” lyrics

Music by Elton John, lyrics by Tim Rice
Performed by Geoff Hoyle, Scott Irby-Ranniar, and Kajuana Shuford


Colors:


I'm gonna be a mighty king, so enemies beware!
 
	I've never seen a king of beasts
	With quite so little hair
 
I'm gonna be the mane event
Like no king was before
I'm brushing up on looking down
I'm working on my roar
 
	Thus far a rather uninspiring thing
 
Oh, I just can't wait to be king!
 
No one saying do this		Now when I said that--
No one saying be there		What I meant was--
No one saying stop that		What you don't realize--
No one saying see here		Now see here!
Free to run around all day	That's definitely out--
Free to do it all my way!
 
I think it's time that you and I
Arranged a heart-to-heart
 
Kings don't need advice
From little hornbills for a start
 
If this is where the monarchy is headed
Count me out
Out of service, out of Africa
I wouldn't hang about
This child is getting wildly out of wing
 
Oh, I just can't wait to be king!
Everybody look left
 
Everybody look right
 
Everywhere you look I'm--
 
Standing in the spotlight
 
Not yet
 
Let every creature go for broke and sing
Let's hear it in the herd and on the wing
It's gonna be King Simba's finest fling
 
Oh, I just can't wait to be king!
 
Oh, he just can't wait to be king!
 
Oh, I just can't wait...
 
Just can't wait
 
To be king!


42 posted on 06/25/2009 7:07:55 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: boxerblues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXs8OS6EdAE


43 posted on 06/25/2009 7:08:56 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: mickie
Good question. Let's call our CongressCritters and Senators and ask them. Better yet, let's demand to go on their health care plan and if they refuse let's demand they join ours. ; )
44 posted on 06/25/2009 7:09:07 AM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car and my doctor's office!)
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To: quesney

That makes sense. The Fuhrer lives by a seperate standard than the rest of us peasants.


45 posted on 06/25/2009 7:10:03 AM PDT by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: silverleaf
WHO IN THE HECK wants obama and his legion of bureaucrats making health care decisions for them?????

The premise behind Roe v. Wade was that the state does not have the right to interfere in the medical decisions of a patient and a doctor and further that the state cannot inquire into the medical conditions of citizens because of the RIGHT OF PRIVACY.

The implementation of a forced government controlled health care industry would involve a wholesale destruction of any notion of medical "privacy" as enunciated in Griswold v. Connecticut and Roe v. Wade.

Someone needs to start asking these congressmen and the president if they are now advocating that the constitutional "right of privacy" enunciated in Roe is no longer applicable to the states or the federal government?

46 posted on 06/25/2009 7:10:57 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: lynn4303
Law should read all government employees must access the government universal health care policy from the lowest Rotunda sweeper to the president. Then see what happens. The republicans will not push this because it will include them. Face it, we have no friends up there. The repubs want the democrats to pass this because they will still have great insurance, but they can use it to bash the democrats and plead for donations to help us. They don't care. Sooner we realize that the sooner we can throw all the bums out
47 posted on 06/25/2009 7:11:17 AM PDT by lynn4303
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To: MrB

Again, you get it. The average progressive peon either secretly lusts after the power of the elites for themselves (but usually settle for working on a HOA board or some grievance0-mongering busybody organization) or truly believe that they are too stupid to make their own life decisions and need a superior/Nanny State/National Father(*barf*)/”expert” to rule them.


48 posted on 06/25/2009 7:12:11 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: 1010RD
“They’re not lame, they’re compromised.”

That I sincerely believe. And I fear that some are compromised because their participation in the most despicable acts.

To me it is the only way to explain their votes in congress.

49 posted on 06/25/2009 7:12:40 AM PDT by Never on my watch (You are in the most danger when you are in the company of pacifists.)
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To: quesney
The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if "it's my family member, if it's my wife, if it's my children, if it's my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.

Just like all the limousine liberal elites.

50 posted on 06/25/2009 7:12:56 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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