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3 Hours, 2 Amendments: ACES Climate Bill Hits the House Floor
http://solveclimate.com ^ | Jun 26th, 2009 | by Stacy Morford

Posted on 06/26/2009 9:51:04 AM PDT by Maelstorm

Here we go. The U.S. House is about to launch a three-hour debate and then a vote this afternoon on the American Clean Energy and Security (ACES) climate bill.

Under the rules that were just approved, only two amendments will be considered, one from each party:

The first is a 310-page manager’s amendment submitted early this morning by ACES author Henry Waxman (D-Calif.).

The bulk of Waxman’s amendment involves the concessions that Waxman made to Rep. Collin Peterson and his farm-state Democrats to win their support for the climate bill, including shifting oversight of offset programs from the EPA to the Department of Agriculture and restricting how the EPA evaluates lifecycle emissions from biofuels. Greenpeace named both as tipping points for its decision yesterday to call on the House to reject the ACES legislation.

Waxman's amendment also incorporates a proposal from Rep. Dina Titus (D-Nevada) that would extend the length of government contracts for renewable http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post_article energy purchases from 10 years to 20 years to encourage more solar investments in places such as military bases.

The Republican amendment was written by Rep. Randy Forbes (R-Va.) to replace the text of ACES with his "New Manhattan Project for Energy Independence."

Forbes’ proposal doesn’t establish emissions targets, a cap-and-trade program or renewable electricity standards, as ACES does. Instead it would set up a commission to come up with recommendations by next year that could move the United States to 100 percent energy independence by 2030.

To get to that goal, Forbes’ plan would tap the nation’s entrepreneurial spirit by establishing prizes to encourage for the first people or groups to meet these seven goals: make 70 mpg vehicles that are affordable, cut home and business energy usage in half, make solar power work at the same cost as coal, make biofuels cost-competitive with gasoline, safely and cheaply capture carbon emissions and store them, safely store or neutralize nuclear waste, and produce usable electricity from nuclear fusion.

Just about everyone was weighing in on the bill this morning, from editorials in the major newspapers, to the head of the European Commission, to members of Congress speaking out. Here's a sample:

On the House floor, Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.) urged his colleagues who still claim climate change is a hoax to take off their blinders.

“There are hundreds of peer-reviewed scientific studies that say climate change is real and man’s actions are contributing,” Quigley said. “Let’s face reality and do what’s right for our children and our children’s children."

Several Republicans, including Texas Rep. Joe Barton, complained the bill was being rushed to a vote without giving House members enough time to study its 1,201 pages or Waxman’s new amendment. Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas), a member of the Rules Committee, said not one member had read the entire bill: "We even joked about that as we walked in.”

Rep. John Shimkus (R-Ill.) pulled up a photograph to illustrate an opposition view of ACES:

“If we pass this bill we get this: Unemployed miners.”

Rep. Jay Inslee (D-Wash.), speaking on CSPAN, described the debate as optimists vs. pessimists and argued that it was worth 47 cents a day to leave healthy forests and coasts to the next generation.

“Take a deep breath here. Look at the evidence,” Inslee said. “The status quo is not good enough.”

President Obama, who stayed behind the scenes on the bill until this week, yesterday publicly urged House members, Republican and Democrat, to pass the bill because it would create clean energy jobs and keep the United States at the forefront of the technology. He then joined Waxman and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in lobbying undecided members into the evening at a White House luau.

Supporters need 218 votes for the bill to pass, and last night the count was close.

From Brussels this morning, EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso also urged the House to pass the bill, telling The Associated Press:

"We want the U.S. to go as far and as fast as they can on climate change," Barroso said. "We want Waxman-Markey to succeed. ... Rarely, perhaps, has U.S. domestic legislation been so carefully monitored internationally."

"President Obama's personal commitment ... has amounted to nothing less than a sea-change in the U.S. position. His leadership means that the United States is now back at the table."

Newspaper editorial writers across the country weighed in on both sides of the debate.

The Washington Post, like Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth, argued that the bill wasn't strong enough:

“It's not too late to hope for a cleaner cap-and-trade bill – such proposals are circulating on Capitol Hill – or a properly designed carbon tax. Given that congressional action could set a template for years or decades, we think it's too soon to settle for something that falls so far short of ideal.”

The New York Times, like Sierra Club and 1sky, argued that while ACES isn't perfect, it's a necessary step forward – there is no more time to waste:

“We believe that it is an important beginning to the urgent task of averting the worst damage from climate change. Approval would show that the United States is ready to lead and would pressure other countries to follow. Rejection could mean more wasted years and more damage to the planet.”

London's Guardian newspaper stressed in its own editorial that the world was looking to Washington for action:

“Yes, the U.S. is late to the climate-change fight; true, these steps are not big enough. But Washington is at last playing catch-up - and that is cause for modest optimism.”

Back on the House floor, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) described the conflict that lawmakers from energy states like hers faced between their region's industries and the need to do what's right for the planet.

“This is heavy lifting. This is for the courageous," she said. "In this legislation there is a great effort to ensure that the American people are addressed fairly. … We have to get started. We have to be innovative.”



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To: Maelstorm
Picture yourself in a bad auto accident (current economy) and taken to the hospital. You are bleeding (taxes) and need more blood (money) to stay alive. They draw a pint of blood from you (more taxes, cap and trade, healthcare taxes) to give to someone else who is already brain-dead (those on the poverty treadmill, illegals, etc), plus they remove your testicles (your future) just because they can (elections have consequences), and by the way, you will have a very public rectal exam (intrusive and politically motivated abuse of the census process).

This is roughly what is happening now between cap and trade, take over of banks and financial institutions, and take over of the healthcare industry.

In other words, if an openly Marxist president were elected in November 2008, we could not tell the difference from the hopey-dopey-changey crap some 220 days into King Barry's eight year reign.

21 posted on 06/26/2009 10:30:03 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Maelstorm
You shouldn’t hold your breath but the GOP is trying.

Really? All I hear is RINO compromises, like getting a cigarette just prior to lining up for the firing squad. Please enlighten me on any progress by the Rs to defeat this pile of dung.

22 posted on 06/26/2009 10:32:10 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Man50D

I hear them talking about how they are voting for this to prevent the EPA from regulating CO2 emissions!


23 posted on 06/26/2009 10:32:13 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Sarah Palin 2012 (Who else in the GOP is man enough?))
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To: AAABEST

“while one of the most infamous and life altering bills is being debated, all of the news channels are going wall-to-wall over a dead pedarest, washed-up pop star....”

It makes one wonder if the liberal left had ole Michael J waxed just for this reason!!!!


24 posted on 06/26/2009 10:32:51 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: SERKIT

I know for one Randy Forbes has been working hard against it and I will guarantee nearly all the GOP will vote against this. They are also arguing against the bill as I write this. They are doing what they can given that they do not have a majority in the house. It isn’t in their hands. We have to convince Democrats in Red districts. The GOP is not the problem on this issue.


25 posted on 06/26/2009 10:34:34 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Sarah Palin 2012 (Who else in the GOP is man enough?))
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To: Maelstorm

My question, I heard Dingles talking (& a couple Dems as well) on House Floor that we have to pass HR5424 & if we don’t we will be in worse shape because the EPA rules will hit hard, etc.

My question (& it is not rhetorical), since when does the EPA wield more authority than Congress? Don’t they set the limits to which EPA can enforce guidelines?

Is EPA more powerful than Congress? If so, should it be?


26 posted on 06/26/2009 10:35:42 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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27 posted on 06/26/2009 10:45:06 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: bushwon

Hell no it shouldn’t be but the EPA has consistently overstepped its bounds. Legislators do not craft the final environmental regulations.


28 posted on 06/26/2009 10:48:13 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Sarah Palin 2012 (Who else in the GOP is man enough?))
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To: Maelstorm
If 7 Congress critters aren't found by this after noon to vote no, then the bill will pass the house and the DOW will plummet on Monday.

The Senate will most likely pass the bill.....we are so screwed.

29 posted on 06/26/2009 11:00:04 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Maelstorm

Hell no it shouldn’t be but the EPA has consistently overstepped its bounds. Legislators do not craft the final environmental regulations.


This has to be changed—I was watching Dingels thinking wth? He was acting like the EPA is some superior entity that our society has to cow tow to...I am thinking, these bureaucrats, just like the czars are not even elected or constitutional.

The EPA should be answering to Congress who should be answering to the citizenry. After all, they are supposed to be serving and representing the citizens aren’t they?!!!!


30 posted on 06/26/2009 11:49:25 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Maelstorm

God help us. National suicide.


31 posted on 06/26/2009 12:53:47 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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