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1 posted on 06/26/2009 9:44:41 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

No kidding! And don’t forget the big agribusinesses like Archer Daniels Midland. They’ve been buying politicians for years. Bob Dole used to be called the Senator from ADM.


2 posted on 06/26/2009 9:48:57 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Lorianne

More like the liberty lobby verses the Totalitarian lobby.

There is no special interest represented in this vote, only the accumulation and control of power for the elites. The vote was for the government to have total control over the means of production!

3 posted on 06/26/2009 9:52:31 PM PDT by DaveyB (A government's ability to give is proportionate to their power to take away!)
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the theory that heading off global catastrophe is only worthwhile if agribusiness can profit from it.

Bollocks.

My question, as always, is: If this is really a "global catastrophe" then why do we exempt China, India, Mexico, etc.?

It's either a ****ing global catastrophe or it isn't. If it is, we don't have the luxury of picking and choosing who gets to "head off" anything.

4 posted on 06/26/2009 9:54:15 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: Lorianne

If only farmers really did have the power we really should wield, because, really, your lives depend on us.

If only we got all those billions of dollars that we supposedly get.

It is a good thing farmers aren’t as rich and spoiled as everyone thinks they are because most would just quit and retire, especially since most of us are nearing retirement age and there are not many young farmers to take our places. Those people who are afraid we’re going to make a little money off of them but doesn’t blink an eye making Estee Lauder, Maybelline, Hollywood stars, Professional athletes etc, rich, might wake up hungry some day.


5 posted on 06/26/2009 10:19:22 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Lorianne

Farmers: Quit farming, let your crops rot, go on the government dole, and make everybody HUNGRY! That ought to light a fire under Americans to fix this problem!


6 posted on 06/26/2009 11:04:26 PM PDT by Lexinom (How many last straws do we need?)
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from Milwguy

While watching CNBC this morning the whole cap and tax scheme crystalized in my mind. They had a guest host there from UBS and the he was espousing the Messiah’s economic plans. he went into the whole green jobs thing, and then two Congressmen came on. The one anti tax and kill Congressmam pointed out how ludicrous the UBS bankers arguments about green jobs was. Like the Spanish study just out from their ‘green economy’ showing for every green job created, two regular ones are lost. Also that it took subsidies of 750K per job to create each job.

The whole time the UBS guy on split screen just sat there and smiled, his smile getting bigger the longer the Congressman spoke. The UBS guy knows what the MSM and most americans do not, and this came to me like a bolt of lightning as I watched the UBS guy smile.

Cap and Trade is the replacement for Subprime and securitized mortgages, 50 to 1 leverage the banks used the last 10 years, etc. Without a housing bubble, the only way the bankers can continue to make money at our expense is cap and trade. Why? BECAUSE THEY WILL BE RUNNING THE MARKET FOR CARBON OFFSETS!!! The UBS’s, Goldman Sachs, etc of the world will game the system the same way they made liar loans, 110% mortgages, etc.

Cap and Tax is the bankers next big thing, and the main reason Enron went down and the Jeff Skilling and Andy Fastows of the world were hauled off to jail was cap and tax, not manipulating the energy prices.

Kenny Lay, Skilling and company actually met with Clinton in the White House to start this ball rolling. Once the bankers found out about this, they had to stop them by any means necessary to keep the pot of gold for themselves.

The smile on the UBS bankers face was like the cat who caught the canary, he can taste the money they will make by selling nothing but air. No cost, 100% profit. To the corrupt bankers, it does not get better than that.


9 posted on 06/27/2009 7:10:43 AM PDT by mo
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