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To: quesney

I don’t buy that it is too late. The old cliche “It’s always darkest before the dawn” applies here IMO. It will get darker yet for awhile but the dawn will appear.

Why do I believe this? Because I have three sons between the ages of 18 and 25. I know their friends. One voted for McCain and is at least somewhat interested in politics. Another liked and voted for 0bama because of the “historic” and “cool” aura surrounding zer0 during the campaign (he’s an artist type.) He is now suffering severe buyer’s remorse. My other son is involved not at all in politics and forgot to vote.

So, I have raised my kids to have common sense but to respect their own freedom of choice. All three of them, as different as they are, will not stand in the long term for having their freedoms taken away and will, ultimately, stand up for their own rights. Their friends are the same way.

Combine this with the fact that most of the people are just now waking up to the debacle that is 0bama and the far left in this country and before 2012 the tide will turn.

I do not buy that zer0’s agenda is irreversible. I just don’t. If that were true then Carter’s cr@p would still be the predominant direction of the country. zer0 wouldn’t have to be overcoming the Reagan Revolution (with the unfortunate help of Clinton and GWB) right now.

So, there is ample reason to worry, plenty of incentive to stand up and be counted but not a single reason to panic. I trust the vast majority of the American people, as slow to action as they are, to prevail and that the 15-20% of hard leftists who have sway right now will be defeated by their own failing agenda. Theirs is a world view that is not sustainable and most people - enough to take them out of power - will ultimately vote for freedom over subservience.

Honestly I appreciate why some may have the despair seen in this open letter. I think I already know all the arguments in favor of this despair. But even if I agree that many of them are true I still don’t buy the final conclusion that it is too late.

I have faith in America and the Constitution even though they are both under severe attack. They will prevail IMO.

But not without a serious fight.


49 posted on 06/27/2009 8:28:38 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE speech.)
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To: paulycy

But not without a serious fight.
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Hopefully, no Pb will have to fly to make things right again. But if it does, and if I must die in the effort, I want to go down fighting until the end. I would not want to live under the realization that I had not done all I could.

If lead has to fly, I want to fling all of mine.


144 posted on 06/27/2009 1:01:23 PM PDT by HotLead61 (Death as a Free Man is much preferred to "life" as a slave)
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To: paulycy

Good post - thank you.


152 posted on 06/27/2009 2:32:44 PM PDT by Uncledave
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To: paulycy

“I do not buy that zer0’s agenda is irreversible. I just don’t. If that were true then Carter’s cr@p would still be the predominant direction of the country. zer0 wouldn’t have to be overcoming the Reagan Revolution (with the unfortunate help of Clinton and GWB) right now.”

I have a tough time with this thought vis a vis “irreversible”. While in theory, of course, anything can be reversed, IMO it will be a lot harder than with Carter. I say this because (and with the caveat that I was far less politically involved during those times) Carters’ mandates were just blatantly ridiculous on their face. Now, I’d of course say the same things about 0bamas’ agenda points, but bear with me.

With Carter, we really had an advocate for sudden and system-wide capitulation to multi-front failure that few were prepared to accept, whether left or right winged. Oh sure, from both sides, we deserved plenty of punishment for the VietNam war. Our cars had turned into low quality pieces of pig iron. OPEC, which was felt to be “the Arabs” had us by the short hairs, and most US cities were in serious decay.

But IMO the general populace was NOT NOT ready to capitulate to the type of subjugation we see today. Today, let’s compare from a more leftist view than either of us take: we have the horrible rotten guilt we should feel over Iraq, and let’s call that equal to VietNam. We had 9/11 which showed that the Arabs were not necessarily desert savages, they could master cell phones and email and cause us horrific damage. Russia is re-emerging as the kind of opposing chess player that supposedly went away post-USSR, so maybe their Reagan-based demise was overstated, but in any case we surely aren’t as safe as we once thought we were (to all but mass-destructive nuclear attack) so THERE’S ANOTHER linchpin thing about America that isn’t the way it was.

So, the above being admittedly very superficial, what else? Now we have our so-called best and brightest all gung-ho, full of educational diversity, green energy, and distinctly lacking in Constitutional understanding or appreciation. There is furthermore a vastly enhanced entitlement class, be it welfare, illegals, or those bright students who think their schooling should be free, plus a sizable portion of the masses that think medical care should just drop out of the sky.

Now, we add to the mix a political cabal apparently quite convinced and jihad’ed over the prospect not of being custodians, but of being change agents, to the point of willing to be at apparent overt war with their constituents. That’s the measure of how convinced they are as to the righteousness of their cause.

So with all these elements supporting the *demise* of say the top 5 conservative principles, and a probable deterioration of conservative support, IMO there’s every reason to suspect an enduring mandate for the type of socialist centralization and control we seem to be heading for. The world has gotten to be a more complicated place and folks want someone to take care of things for them, instead of taking the pain and developing the cojones to stand up for themselves. They don’t see medical care as being something should have to think about or struggle for. Dammit, it’s hard enough waking up for Sociology class after going on last weekend’s bender!

That’s my wandering explanation for why, though possible, it’s likely IMO to be very, very hard to dislodge what’s being cooked up for us. There’s a ton of people who WANT what this guy offers (even tho it’s largely total BS) while during the Carter era, people KNEW it was just a dismal time that would most likely pass. This is hope and change and wonderfulness and as long as it never has to be measured against any objective reality, it’s likely to persist.


191 posted on 06/27/2009 9:14:04 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (What kind of organization answers the phone if you call a suicide hotline in Gaza City?)
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