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Analysis: Law need not bow to chemistry
scotusblog.com ^ | June 25, 2009 | Lyle Denniston

Posted on 06/27/2009 6:39:31 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: parsifal
I hope not. I used to think conservative judges were better because of the word “conservative.” I found out “liberal” judges tend to be more pro-citizen. “Conservative” judges are more pro-gov’t. We need better words. grishams books are very very realistic.

They're just wrong on different issues. What about Kelo? Roe? Casey? Lopez? Almost anything having to do with guns (though the "conservatives hardly get full credit for this one either)?

21 posted on 06/27/2009 7:32:53 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: muawiyah

Invariably? No, of course not. But it’s a potential bias that the courts till now have been intent on hiding. Like when they won’t let you argue the Constitution at trial, only on appeal, or when the judge is allowed to lie to you and tell you you’re not allowed to nullify. Remember, the defense doesn’t HAVE to use this, it just gives them the option in those cases where they want to. And your point about billing by the hour is certainly well taken.


22 posted on 06/27/2009 7:36:14 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: muawiyah

And I’m not saying they’re not honest, or at least the majority, but the jury might take their findings with a little less weight if they stop and think who they work for. Not just dismiss them entirely like a liberal would, just don’t take everything they at face value without thinking.


23 posted on 06/27/2009 7:38:13 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Indeed - very odd alliance of justices.


24 posted on 06/27/2009 7:44:49 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Ms. Curie croaked from her carelessness with radium...

Not carelessness. At that point, nobody knew the stuff was dangerous. But she found out.

25 posted on 06/27/2009 8:06:11 PM PDT by Nighttime in America
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To: neverdem

I think you may have hit on something. When someone gets arrested for violating an EPA regulation based on their false science you can now haul the “scientist” into court:)
Right? :)


26 posted on 06/27/2009 8:32:37 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: HiTech RedNeck
One of the oddest 5-4 splits on record.

And fortunately, it sides with the individual over the state.

27 posted on 06/28/2009 3:44:11 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
And fortunately, it sides with the individual over the state.

That's what makes it unusual! (Sorta kidding) Good news on Safford, too, except my man CT is off the reservation. Not sure what his point is and have sufficient respect for him over the years to read what he has to say before criticizing. Not sure how anyone could side with Safford on this, though. (They strip searched a girl looking for Advil!!)

28 posted on 06/28/2009 8:42:48 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Still Thinking

I agree, in my opinion Thomas is the best Justice in terms of original intent and protecting the individual over the state.


29 posted on 06/28/2009 8:45:26 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
in my opinion Thomas is the best Justice in terms of original intent and protecting the individual over the state.

I agree, which makes it really hard to see why he would vote for the state in what seems like such a clear cut case. They strip searched her looking for Advil!! If I were on the court, not only would they lose this case, but for the first time in history, SCOTUS would be handing down directly from their bench long terms in a FPMITAP!

Up thread I was having a exchange with a poster who said that despite his knee jerk reaction, he found the conservative justices pro-govt, and the liberals pro-individual. I think liberals are just statist on different (and more) issues and gave some examples, but I do grant that the conservatives hardly vote like principled Constitutional scholars. But Thomas?? He's the one I generally hold above any criticism at all. I almost said in that exchange that what we need are eight more Thomases.

30 posted on 06/28/2009 8:56:31 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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I actually called my local radio station the other day to complain about the news coverage of the SCOTUS finding for the girl (Redding) and against Safford. In the newscast, everything they said was correct but they said the case arose from an incident where the girl was strip searched looking for "drugs".

Most people are going to think strip searching is the nuclear option when it comes to the powers of a school district, to be employed under only the most extreme and unquestionable justification. They hear this and they'll probably think something like "Well, strip searching is pretty severe even for drugs, but maybe her family are known drug dealers or something". The newscast gave no hint that they were stripping her naked to verify an uncorroborated tip that she was doing something that WASN'T EVEN ILLEGAL! Talk about sham reporting.

31 posted on 06/28/2009 9:07:03 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Sorry. I meant my post 31 to be addressed to you.


32 posted on 06/28/2009 9:08:23 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: parsifal

Oh, and Grisham, while his fiction is excellent (I think I’ve read all of it, as well as An Innocent Man), is a hard core liberal. Look at his characters, and what they’re doing that’s bad. I mean, it usually is BAD, what they’re doing, but the bad guys almost always people and actions that fit the liberal stereotypes of conservatives. Too much socialism never seems to be the problem, always the private sector or moneyed conservatives meddling in politics.


33 posted on 06/28/2009 9:53:44 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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Yep, that’s the problem with lefty types and liberals being the writing class and the guys who do screenplays. Notice how you seldom see an intelligent Christian in a movie. Started back in the 50s and 60s. Remember all those westerns where southerners were a bunch of wahoo idiots and christians were always the intolerant type who beat their wives and kids and wanted to lynch innocent minorities, innocent people, and were really hypocrites who had actually robbed the bank.

parsy, who grew up in south Georgia and and could probably go wahoo if necessary.


34 posted on 06/28/2009 11:50:41 AM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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