Yeah, and I hear some of the guys are badasses too. (:^o)
Posted on 06/29/2009 12:12:07 AM PDT by Chet 99
I can usually detect the scent of resentment for authority, and your’s reeks to high heaven.
I’ve been around for awhile ( almost 70 ) and remember reading and hearing about the many raids of queer bars in the 60s in Chicago where I lived. They were common and people arrested on all kinds of outrageous charges. Peoples lives were ruined for simply being in a place that the police figured was fair game. Often the charges were being in a disorderly house. Then I moved to Los Angeles and the same kind of raids were common.
Yes, I do have gay friends and yes I have been to gay restaurants and piano bars. You might try going to one. I think you’ll find that nothing goes on in those places that doesn’t go on in straight places. In past decades however being gay was a crime and now it’s not. Big difference now and there are no raids and officers are not being groped and solicited. I contend that they weren’t in the 60s either but they could get away with the charge because gays were criminals with little support. No one believed them and often the whole procedure of arrest to court was an easy way for all involved to share in the bribes that were common in those arrests and prosecutions.
In Chicago the going rate to pay off a judge for gay arrests in bars was $500. I don’t know about LA.
There are some gays i’ll have nothing to do with but I don’t let the nuts in that community ruin it for the many who follow the law and lead an otherwise normal and productive life. Don’t paint the whole painting with the same brush.
Yeah, and I hear some of the guys are badasses too. (:^o)
Gays here in DC are grousing that heterosexuals are moving into formerly gay areas, like Dupont Circle. As a result of gentrification that was spearheaded in large part by gays, straight people are buying homes in areas that used to gay-heavy.
I read an article a while back that the traditional gay bar is dying out in a lot of places, as urban gays and straight people don't really have an issue when it comes to drinking in the same bars. In most bars around here, no one would bat an eye at a couple of homosexuals out on a date.
I think this is where we're heading.
No, thank you. Your casual comfort with "gay" culture is more than a little disturbing, and a good example of exactly what the homo-activists hope to attain. Yes, I too have friends who are homosexual, and I don't let them drag me to their bars - rather, I discourage them from hanging out in these meat markets. As a former police officer, I'm probably more familiar than you with what goes on in the back and upper rooms of such establishments. Like their "book stores," the clean bar area is merely window dressing for what the core of this culture demands - easy, anonymous, non-committing sex. That you've been duped into believing that they're just like any straight establishment is truly unfortunate and a tribute to the homo-activists' marketing genius. BTW, I'm not a fan of "regular" bars either: mostly, they're depressingly desperate places of broken folks' last resort for attaining a vestige of meaningful human relationships.
The homosexual culture in this country is a direct assault on all traditional Christian-Judeo values with their beneficial, society-preserving influences. Any friendship with this enemy is compliance with this assault on our culture.
That you’ve been duped into believing that they’re just like any straight establishment is truly unfortunate and a tribute to the homo-activists’ marketing genius.
I’m just not willing to paint the whole community with the same brush. There are openly gay police officers in Palm Springs. I just don’t see the serious problem being advanced by some in the straight community. Homosexual sex and relationships just are not and have never been a threat to my life. I usually pass up responding to posts regarding gays as I know I’ll be attacked for my views but some of the stuff I read is downright offensive and wrong.
Many of these posts lead one to believe that all gays are villains not worthy of any acknowlegement that they might be civil, responsible human beings with only a desire to live their lives like everyone else, free of scorn, ridicule and harm. If they bring it on via their own bad behavior then, I agree, blast away, but not until then.
Do you support full legal marriage status or a similar parallel recognition for homosexual couples? Adoption? Employment nondiscrimination?
Meh, don’t buy into the idea that there are that many homosexuals around. San Francisco is the most gay city in America, but only something like 15% of its residents are gay.
Do you support full legal marriage status or a similar parallel recognition for homosexual couples? Adoption? Employment nondiscrimination?
It’s hard to legislate against discrimination but we all know it’s going to exist. Discrimination however should not be legitimized by law. Some organizations should be exempt for religious reasons but I don’t think it right to deny a person a chance to work and support themselves simply because of his or her sexual identity. On the other hand there has to be protection of the employer and organizations against militant in your face jerks with an agenda at work but I would think that harassment laws and workplace rules would cover that. I think a church and some other private organizations should be exempt from some of the hiring laws.
I guess my views on homosexuality are quite liberal for this site and like I say I usually avoid posting on the issue as I know I’ll get blasted but I just don’t see the threat that some others see. I’ve been around awhile and I have never felt threatened by gays. I’m quite conserative in most other areas, am a hawk on foreign policy, financially am a conservative, hate taxes, hate spending and feel much more threatened by democrats and the left than from all the gays combined in this country.
Seems strange to me that you’re ready to bar me from FR for an opinion in just one area that you don’t agree with.
My friend, I can only say that if you want a site where everyone agrees on every aspect of life and politics, good luck. I call myself a conservative and believe that I am in most areas. Because I stray in one view I guess I’m an unworthy soul. Have you ever considered that it is with this view that the GOP is losing ground? Oh well, I guess I’m guilty of giving an honest opinion based on my life experiences. I guess one should never do that but instead just join the mob and keep quiet.
Good luck to you. If you feel I must be destroyed and discredited with FR then fire away.
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If this doesn't describe you, then get lost.
By the way, the cross-stomping, lone little-old-lady terrorizing Palm Spring animals are anything other than what you describe. Yeah, they are the face of the “gay” agenda. And your “non-trouble-maker” gay friends didn’t fall on their swords to stop this outrage, did they?
I’m with you. Militant radicals and weirdo inconsiderates are just that and there is no defending them. One doesn’t need to be assigned a sexual identity to be a scoundrel or misfit.
It’s these misfits and radicals that made me support prop 8 that militant gays are so upset about passing in Calif. I felt the radicals took over the No on 8 movement and didn’t support them at all. Again, I’ll judge an individual on the merits of the individual’s character.
If you claim to have gay friends I assume you have made the same judgement, based on the individual’s character, not a perceived negative image you obtained after dealing with the seamier side of the sex addicted culture that so many link to all gays. They aren’t all like that is all I’m saying so I don’t paint them all with one brush.
I don’t support much of the so called gay movement because I do think that radicals control it and have agenda’s detrimental to an orderly society. Many are far left and I have no room in my mind for their movement. But when you see people as individuals it’s a bit harder to judge that individual from the group perspective. I believe there are many out there who don’t subscribe to the group’s militant goals and who are just trying to get by in life like the rest of us and who are not a threat to anyone.
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