[ml/nj]

I just don’t think the debates back up the contention that the bill of rights was intended to apply to the states. The history just doesn’t bear it out.

The words in the amendments are pretty darn clear. The suggestion that the Framers didn't say what they intended to say rings pretty hollow with me given their incredible precision in all these other documents they left around. It is only "by words multiplied" that anyone could have a different interpretation here.

ML/NJ

[Publius Valerius]

The suggestion that the Framers didn't say what they intended

They said precisely what they intended, which is why the amendments that would have bound the states were voted down in Congress. I mean, this debate was had in Congress, and the effort to extend amendments to the states was defeated.