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Honduras 'to stop Zelaya plane' [Live thread]
BBC ^ | Sunday, 5 July 2009 15:16 UK

Posted on 07/05/2009 7:25:07 AM PDT by maquiladora

The interim government in Honduras says it will block any attempt by ousted President Manuel Zelaya to return.

Mr Zelaya, who was removed by troops a week ago, has promised to fly home to the Central American nation later on Sunday.

But Foreign Minister Enrique Ortez said that any plane carrying Mr Zelaya would not be allowed to land.

The stand-off comes a day after the top regional body, the OAS, suspended Honduras over the crisis.

Supporters of the ousted leader were said to be gathering in the capital, Tegucigalpa, in order to meet him at the airport.

The BBC's Stephen Gibbs, in the capital, says there are growing fears of violence. The capital's archbishop has warned of a possible "bloodbath".

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1 posted on 07/05/2009 7:25:07 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora

I admire the Hondurans who protect their constitution admirably. Glad to see the military stepping up against tyranny.


2 posted on 07/05/2009 7:26:16 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin isn't retreating, but taking the fight in another direction.)
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To: maquiladora

Remember, it’s not the fall that’ll kill you, it’s the sudden stop.


3 posted on 07/05/2009 7:26:28 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Sarah Palin: Sun Tzu of Politics)
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To: maquiladora

Bloodshed... “all obama’s fault” - just like he is responsible for the deaths in iran...


4 posted on 07/05/2009 7:27:24 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: maquiladora
zer0 answered "present" to the 3AM call.

Just imagine the different response to this from the United States of America if George W. Bush was still President.

5 posted on 07/05/2009 7:27:46 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: maquiladora

Can you believe free people would stand up for someone, who is trying to break their own countries law? The president committed an unconstitutional act. If they have the death penalty, then he should be tried and put to death.


6 posted on 07/05/2009 7:29:23 AM PDT by wbones8765 ("Give me liberty or give me death")
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To: maquiladora

7 posted on 07/05/2009 7:31:00 AM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: maquiladora
The BBC's Stephen Gibbs, in the capital, says there are growing fears of violence. The capital's archbishop has warned of a possible "bloodbath".

Zero's gonna lose his svelte figure if he has to keep going out for ice cream...

8 posted on 07/05/2009 7:31:35 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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To: maquiladora

That’s a good move strategically. Avoids the spectacle on the ground that Zelaya wanted to appear on television across the world. I hope the Honduran people can turn back the Chavez-Zelaya-Obama alliance against constitutional democracy.


9 posted on 07/05/2009 7:32:30 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: COBOL2Java

He can walk it off on the golf course.


10 posted on 07/05/2009 7:33:24 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) We know how to deal with Iran.)
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To: SolidWood

Wish our own military would do the same. Lord knows the Obamanation is running circles around our constitution.


11 posted on 07/05/2009 7:33:46 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: maquiladora
Zelaya hops a plane when ever the mood strikes him.
He must be a very rich man...
12 posted on 07/05/2009 7:34:03 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: maquiladora
From Wikipedia.

Honduran Air Force

From another website.

Honduras Air Force

They sound capable enough to stop an airliner. They fly F-5s.

13 posted on 07/05/2009 7:38:05 AM PDT by csvset
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To: maquiladora
Honduras 'to stop Zelaya plane'

I recommend the use of an air-to-air missile.

14 posted on 07/05/2009 7:39:10 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: maquiladora
"Supporters of the ousted leader were said to be gathering in the capital, Tegucigalpa, in order to meet him at the airport."

All the drug lords in one place? Sounds like opportunity to me...

15 posted on 07/05/2009 7:43:48 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: maquiladora

Zelaya wanted a showdown and was asking all his “followers” to show up at the airport. Good move by Honduras to avoid the showdown. The longer this goes on, the more the world is becoming aware of the real situation.


16 posted on 07/05/2009 7:44:30 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: reg45

They need to just kill the little repugnant SOB. Whether they shoot him down en-route, or put a bullet in him once he’s on the ground... it makes no difference. But if he is persistent they should stay one step ahead in escalation of force. The next obvious step in that progression is to kill him.


17 posted on 07/05/2009 7:46:12 AM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: Girlene

He will (probably) try to come in through land routes (established by leftist El Salvador insurgents decades ago) on the Honduras-Salvador border. I doubt they would try to go through with the landing at Tegus nowadays. But with Chavez, Castro, El Salavador and others backing the deposed Marxist, anything could happen!


19 posted on 07/05/2009 7:47:45 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (A nation obsessing on a dead serial child molester-at a time when it faces nuke war-has "issues")
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To: maquiladora

If he says he’s flying, he’s not. They’d better check every known entry point they can think of.


20 posted on 07/05/2009 7:48:35 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: maquiladora
Mr Zelaya says he will be accompanied by the leaders of Ecuador and Argentina. It has also been suggested that officials from the Organization of American States could go with him.

Complete with human shields.

21 posted on 07/05/2009 7:53:10 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: maquiladora

If Chavez had any balls he’d join his buddy on this flight.


22 posted on 07/05/2009 7:54:35 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
He will (probably) try to come in through land routes (established by leftist El Salvador insurgents decades ago) on the Honduras-Salvador border.

Could be. At least most of his "followers" are at the airport. I wonder if he's coming back because he still thinks his bags of cash are at the President's residence. Government Removes Zelaya’s Perks
23 posted on 07/05/2009 7:54:58 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: SolidWood

“I admire the Hondurans who protect their constitution admirably. Glad to see the military stepping up against tyranny.”

Amen to that!


24 posted on 07/05/2009 7:57:07 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Let’s hope he is removed again if he sneaks in.

Good tagline!


25 posted on 07/05/2009 7:58:46 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: maquiladora

If this guy dies trying to re-enter the country that is Obama’s fault for encouraging him.


26 posted on 07/05/2009 7:59:21 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Girlene

“When the investigations were made at the presidential house, black garbage bags filled with thousands and thousands of dollars were found, as well as in almost every drawer.”

We need to watch for this when we depose Obama.


27 posted on 07/05/2009 8:00:30 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Madame Dufarge
"Complete with human shields.

Naw.... Three for the price of one is the way I see it. Too bad Chavez couldn't be present for as a foursome.

28 posted on 07/05/2009 8:00:58 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: maquiladora

Is this being televised by news outlets. Let me know so I can fire up the popcorn. Just love seeing leftist getting wasted.


29 posted on 07/05/2009 8:02:47 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: hiredhand

They need to just kill the little repugnant SOB. Whether they shoot him down en-route, or put a bullet in him once he’s on the ground... it makes no difference. But if he is persistent they should stay one step ahead in escalation of force. The next obvious step in that progression is to kill him.


Why would you want to create a martyr out of the guy?


30 posted on 07/05/2009 8:07:42 AM PDT by camp_steveo
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To: maquiladora

“Supporters of the ousted leader”

Many from Nicaraugua, Cuba and Venezuela, with wet ink on their Honduran passports.

Meanwhile, obama and Mrs bigfoot are heading off to Russia to kneel to Putin - voting “not present” on Honduras.


31 posted on 07/05/2009 8:11:39 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: camp_steveo

“Why would you want to create a martyr out of the guy?”

because those Che t-shirts are just too passe.


32 posted on 07/05/2009 8:13:04 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: maquiladora

I guess the real question is whether Obama and the CIA were behind the coup.

...I know, no way - the coup was indigenous . But then you have to wonder about other coups, and whether we are to blame...just because the new government sides with us (at least the old USA).


33 posted on 07/05/2009 8:14:12 AM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I watched Venezuelan socialist Telesur TV (pro Chavez) and they videotaped the Honduran crowds in support of that red bastard Zelaya going to the capial city airport, hoping to see him back.

I wish I had a few pesetas for each time I saw one of the following in that crowd:

Clenched fists (communist symbol).

Red flags

Che Guevara T Shirts

Masked faces.

Anti George Bush T shirts (go figure)

Scraggly, unshaven, stinking block organizers who had not had a shower in weeks.

In short, the lowlife, socialist scum of the earth trying to rise up, with Chavez, Castro, Ortega, Obama and CNN all on their side.

I got a kick out of all the ANTI-CNN signs in the pro-democracy, anti-Zelaya demonstrations, though (much larger, better looking group of adjusted people).

34 posted on 07/05/2009 8:15:22 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (A nation obsessing on a dead serial child molester-at a time when it faces nuke war-has "issues")
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To: SolidWood

The interim government needs to impeach this lefty loon in abstentia to maintain their credibility.


35 posted on 07/05/2009 8:17:46 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- follow the money and you'll find truth.)
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To: novemberslady
[Zelaya]must be a very rich man...

Zelaya is a very rich man, son of one of the country's richest and most corrupt landowners. In addition, of course, there's his drug and corruption money, coupled with the $80,000 in charges he ran up on government credit cards in the last few weeks just before getting booted.

36 posted on 07/05/2009 8:21:15 AM PDT by livius
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To: maquiladora

Arrest his ass and cart him off to where other enemies of democracy are sent — Gitmo.

Only problem is that after he’s shipped off for a fun-filled ice cream vacation in Bermuda, Obama would release his sorry ass to sneak back into Honduras again...


37 posted on 07/05/2009 8:24:54 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“I got a kick out of all the ANTI-CNN signs in the pro-democracy, anti-Zelaya demonstrations, though (much larger, better looking group of adjusted people).”

I think I would give up my left one to see some anti-CNN protesters over here ;-)


38 posted on 07/05/2009 8:25:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Heart of Georgia
If he says he’s flying, he’s not.

Good point. I have read that Honduras has had some trouble in the last few days with Nicaraguans, who have been infiltrating from that Communist country.

39 posted on 07/05/2009 8:25:51 AM PDT by livius
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“Scraggly, unshaven, stinking block organizers who had not had a shower in weeks.”

No wonder Obama likes them. It reminds him of his youth.


40 posted on 07/05/2009 8:27:44 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: livius
Yes, leftist Nicaraguan and Salvadoran infilitration can not only be anticipated, but BET UPON.

They will also bring in weapons. They will try to start a socialist, underground guerilla force to take on the interim government. Those supply routes are well organized since the mid 1970s, both in their fighting against democracy in El Salvador, and also the Sandinista vs. Contras.

41 posted on 07/05/2009 8:29:26 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (A nation obsessing on a dead serial child molester-at a time when it faces nuke war-has "issues")
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To: maquiladora

With any luck they’ll stop it with some AA fire.


42 posted on 07/05/2009 8:31:49 AM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: livius
Zelaya was in Washington last night for the OAS suspension vote. He may be still "mulling" over his return to Honduras. Ousted Honduran leader mulls return after OAS ruling

.............."Zelaya told the OAS meeting said he wanted to fly from Washington to Honduras later on Sunday.

But several countries at the OAS meeting advised against the move -- which could sharply escalate tension given the interim government has said since last week it will arrest him if he returns. "............
43 posted on 07/05/2009 8:36:27 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: maquiladora

Arrest his ass and cart him off to where other enemies of democracy are sent — Gitmo.

Only problem is that after he’s shipped off for a fun-filled ice cream vacation in Bermuda, Obama would release his sorry ass to sneak back into Honduras again...


44 posted on 07/05/2009 8:38:19 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
They will also bring in weapons. They will try to start a socialist, underground guerilla force to take on the interim government.

Absolutely. In fact, the ones who were arrested earlier in the week were apparently trying to do just that in one of Honduras' more remote "departamentos."

45 posted on 07/05/2009 8:55:14 AM PDT by livius
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To: Girlene

I certainly hope he doesn’t try this stunt.

I know there was one OAS country that did not vote to support him, but I don’t know which one it was. The others all voted to force Honduras to take him back, but I’m sure a number of them were heavily pressured by the Marxist countries and the US (apparently one and the same nowadays) and they may be regretting it now.


46 posted on 07/05/2009 8:57:07 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
it will start in los regiones, and gradually move toward the capital. it will have venezuelan, cuban, nicaraguan, salvadoran, worldwide socialist magnate, and other red money to fund it.

I suggest to the new Honduran government to some how get close to Taiwan and Israel very quickly, and plead for loans, weapons, money and other assistance. There are other ad hoc groups and well off anti-communist financiers they can approach to get them the assistance they need to weather the CNN-Obama-OAS-Chavez storm.

47 posted on 07/05/2009 9:01:17 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (A nation obsessing on a dead serial child molester-at a time when it faces nuke war-has "issues")
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To: csvset
They sound capable enough to stop an airliner. They fly F-5s.

Not if it's being escorted by the Venezuelan Air Force.
48 posted on 07/05/2009 9:03:24 AM PDT by WackySam (The fact that there are 24 hours in a day, and 24 beers in a case, is not a coincidence.)
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To: Girlene
snip from your link.... It is better to pay this high price... than live undignified and bow (the) our heads to the demands of foreign governments," said Roberto Micheletti, named caretaker president by the Honduran Congress after Zelaya's ouster, on Saturday ahead of the expected OAS move.

There is a brave man of integrity.

49 posted on 07/05/2009 9:13:14 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine PFC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island - LC -6/4/09 - 29 Palms - Camp Pendleton 6/18)
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To: silverleaf

Why would you want to create a martyr out of the guy?

.
Most all of them are easy to forget


50 posted on 07/05/2009 9:14:29 AM PDT by Son House (President Ă˜bama Turns His Back On The Oppressed During Their Darkest Hours)
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