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To: FreeReign

Do you think Bill Clinton was effective for his cause as President?

How many ethics complaints were filed (and unlike Sarah, deservedly so) against him?

At one point the Special Prosecutor was handling around five complaints at one time.

He was both defended and trashed in the media. He mounted a defense in the media and stuck it out.

He was impeached for God sake. He stuck it out. His wife was eviscerated, he was lampooned continuously. He stuck it out.

He was a real prick, but to this day he can play all of it off like it was one big witch hunt, and he outfoxed them all. He got his license to practice law suspended for a few years. I doubt many people even know it.

You can tell me what you like. I’m thinking that if he had resigned most folks would have respected him a lot less, and his legacy would have been almost totally destroyed.

For you and me it actually has been. For a lot of Democrats and Independents, it’s my fear Sarah’s will have too.

We shall see.

I believe I was faithful on the out of the box comment, but if I paraphrased it, I’m sorry.

Stepping down from public office with a plan to go your own route, is outside the box, even if you think it’s just the right thing to do. It is unconventional.

Note:

My comparison above was to highlight someone else who had many charges brought against him while he held office. It was not to say Sarah and Bill had comparable exposures based on the validity of charges brought against them.


353 posted on 07/05/2009 3:35:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: DoughtyOne
Clinton is a sociopath. What applies to a normal person does not apply to him.
362 posted on 07/05/2009 3:43:07 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DoughtyOne
He was impeached for God sake. He stuck it out. His wife was eviscerated, he was lampooned continuously. He stuck it out.

If I understand your point - While this all sounds noble, I noticed that at that point (with a Republican Majority among his problems) the wheels had come off his (and the Dems) liberal agenda, and he had make a sharp right to stay where he was.

I followed Gov. Palin's basketball analogy - facing the full court press, if she wanted to move the ball forward (progress for Alaska), she had to make the pass. I'm more for selfless play than for the ball-hogging superstar.

396 posted on 07/05/2009 4:37:56 PM PDT by 24-7Freeper
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To: DoughtyOne
Do you think Bill Clinton was effective for his cause as President?

No, I think Bill Clinton wasn't effective. We bogged him down in his own corruption.

Anyway, the theory isn't that Sarah is just stepping down from her public office of governor and running away or quitting. The theory is that she will take the fight to a higher level by running for president.

Stepping down from public office with a plan to go your own route, is outside the box, even if you think it’s just the right thing to do. It is unconventional.

If she wants to be President, she needs to start now crisscrossing the country, meeting people, raising money and building a political machine and a plan for success. If she wants to be president, I think it is in the best interest of Alaskans that she step down while she is preparing a run for the presidency.

My point is that if one looks at it and thinks it through, the above strategy should not be considered "outside the box" and instead it should be considered common sense. Most politicians who run for higher office don't resign from their current lower office. Certainly that doesn't serve their constituents very well; certainly that shouldn't be the common practice (even though it is) and certainly that shouldn't be considered "inside the box", even though by many it is.

JMO.

Regards.

416 posted on 07/05/2009 7:52:06 PM PDT by FreeReign
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