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California Prints Its Own Currency - A Satire?
Real Clear Markets ^ | 7/6/2009 | Bill Frezza

Posted on 07/06/2009 5:38:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/06/2009 5:38:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What is the Constitutionality of any state or entity other than the Fed issuing currency, IOUs etc.?


2 posted on 07/06/2009 5:44:22 AM PDT by relictele
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this a satire?


3 posted on 07/06/2009 5:44:55 AM PDT by Ancient Drive (will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Outstanding satire! Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 07/06/2009 5:45:46 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, but can you trade CalBucks for carbon credits?


5 posted on 07/06/2009 5:46:42 AM PDT by Hugin (GSA! (Goodbye sweet America))
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To: SeekAndFind

The I.O.U. s being printed and issued by the state are a defacto currency! Are banks accepting it? yes, Are businesses accepting it? some are. Defacto currency.


6 posted on 07/06/2009 5:50:23 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Only Property Owners that pay taxes should have the right to Vote")
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To: relictele

The Fed issuing currency is actually unconstitutional.


7 posted on 07/06/2009 5:50:36 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Truly Constitutional money isn't just backed by gold and silver- it IS gold and silver.)
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To: relictele
You hit the tight question. Under Article I of the Constitution only the federal government has the power to "mint money." What California is doing is clatly unconstitutional.

Congressman Billybob

8 posted on 07/06/2009 5:57:19 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: relictele

What’s the Constitutionality of the Fed issuing currency?


9 posted on 07/06/2009 5:58:13 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

However, the Federal Reserve is not an entity of the federal government; it is a private bank.

Further, the Constitution mentions gold and silver as possible exchange media... not papers that the government pays a private entity to print and then says are worth something.


10 posted on 07/06/2009 6:01:12 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Printing scrip is not unconstitutional.


11 posted on 07/06/2009 6:03:11 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps if the citizens of the US started paying their taxes with self made script the government would get a hint.

Call a personal stimulus program.


12 posted on 07/06/2009 6:10:06 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Too many zeros in the budget. And the White House.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The U.S. Constitution, ratified by the states and adopted by Congress in 1789, forbade states from issuing their own currency, a practice in which the states had engaged for many decades. Exchange rate and price evidence from 1748 through 1811 indicates that this transition did not improve monetary performance, nor is this evidence consistent with the anti-state-currency rhetoric presented at the Constitutional Convention. Offered as a solution to economic ills that were known to be phantoms, this constitutionally created U.S. dollar currency union was a usurpation of state sovereignty by merchant-bankers for personal gain.
13 posted on 07/06/2009 6:26:38 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any fiat money issued by states even if it were to be legal would be pretty worthless little different than our US currency is becoming. However, if states issued gold or silver coinage containing its actual value in precious metal that might be interesting.


14 posted on 07/06/2009 6:29:28 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: SeekAndFind
Thank you! I haven't had a good laugh in days. Wiping the tears out of my eyes ROTFLMAO.

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15 posted on 07/06/2009 6:43:08 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: CPOSharky

If I was in Cali, I would pay all Fed Taxes with the Cali IOU’s.

Oh, and all Cali Taxes with Cali IOU’s.

Wouldn’t that be a hoot!


16 posted on 07/06/2009 6:53:39 AM PDT by Gvl_M3
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To: Publius Valerius
If it is used the same as currency in general circulation, yes, it is unconstitutional. Rhode Island was issuing its own currency as of 1776, with disastrous results. That is why that clause is in the Constitution.

Congressman Billybob

17 posted on 07/06/2009 7:08:09 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: Ancient Drive
-- Is this a satire? --

Yes.

18 posted on 07/06/2009 7:10:07 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: 2001convSVT
-- The I.O.U. s being printed and issued by the state are a defacto currency! Are banks accepting it? yes, Are businesses accepting it? some are. Defacto currency. --

No. Defacto evidence of debt. Similar to gift certificates (currency? No.), and very much like a "promise to pay" note or a judgement from a court.

19 posted on 07/06/2009 7:12:28 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll go on record as saying this is a bad, bad thing. It will bring misery to many and further destroy our country.

FWIW, I said pretty much the same thing when lenders started doing sub-prime mortgages.


20 posted on 07/06/2009 7:27:04 AM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 ~ Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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