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Patrick Burris: Are 5 people dead by government?
Austin Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 7 July, 2009 | Howard Nemerov

Posted on 07/08/2009 5:22:43 AM PDT by marktwain

A serial killer who murdered five people over six days was tracked down by police who were notified by an alert citizen, and then killed after wounding one officer when he opened fire. But as usual, there is a story behind what was published by Old Media.

Law enforcement raises warning flag

After examining Burris’s criminal history, South Carolina’s State Law Enforcement Division [SLED] Chief Reggie Lloyd said:

"Look at this," Lloyd said, waiving [sic] a stapled copy of Burris' criminal record. "This is like 25 pages. At some point the criminal justice system is going to need to explain why this suspect was out on the street."

[Emphasis added]

SLED Deputy Director Neil Dolan said: "He was unpredictable. He was scary. He was weird." “We don’t believe he is going to stop on his own,” Lloyd said. “This one is scary.”

Certainly, the citizens of Gaffney, South Carolina appeared to be united in their support of the outcome. Farmer Sam Howell, 61: "My prayers were answered. He got what he deserved."

Sandy Rhinehart, 42, mother of three: “We just want to make sure he’s gone.”

Gene Wyatt, 35, a housing contractor: “[I was] really glad this guy got killed.”

Let’s make a deal!

Sometimes events bring conditions to a point that law enforcement and private citizens–out of self-preservation and in spite of personal costs–are forced to step up when the legal system fails.

Burris’s criminal history began in 1990, when he was convicted of blackmail and given probation.

In early 1991, he had three more charges (speeding, driving with revoked license, and robbery) and the blackmail charge was added in because of violating probation.

The maximum for all charges was 12 years, but because sentences were combined, he served them concurrently (they ran together, instead of being added onto each other). As a result, he was out in May, 1993; about 2 years and 3 months total.

Burris was arrested immediately for driving with a permanently revoked license and given a year sentence, of which he served 1 month.

By November, 1993, Burris was arrested again, and convicted in January, 1994. He got two years, including parole violation time, but served less than 10 months. He was convicted in May, 1996 on two counts of forgery and four counts of “common law uttering,” all felonies, and was given a suspended sentence and probation. In June 2000, Burris was again arrested for driving with a revoked driver’s license and given probation. One month later, he was arrested for larceny. This earned him 3 months, and the probation violations for the previous forgery, uttering, and traffic convictions netted him another 8 months, but Burris served less than 5 months.

By June, 2001, Burris was arrested on multiple counts of larceny and burglary. Along with an added charge of “habitual felon,” he was convicted on October 3, 2001, with all the crimes consolidated into one judgment. The original sentence was 10 years, 1 month. He was supposed to have a minimum sentence of 7 years, 9 months. Since incarceration began October 3, 2001, this means he should have been released around July 3, 2009. Instead, he was released April 29, 2009.

Another interesting citizen response

Gaffney residents, perhaps innately understanding that the criminal justice system failed to protect them, decided to invoke their civil right of self-defense. “Everybody I know — 75 percent of all my friends — we’re all carrying weapons now, everywhere we go,” Cody Sossaman, 57, publisher of the Gaffney Ledger, said early Monday before police announced they had shot and killed the alleged assailant.

Daddy Joe’s bar patrons included women who were packing pistols in their purses for the first time in their lives.

“I’m telling you what — people are just scared to death!” said Kim Blanton, 49, a fourth-grade teacher who had a loaded .32-caliber pistol in her purse. No, she said, she doesn’t have a permit to carry a concealed weapon — and she doesn’t care.

Blanton said she lives alone, but recently she either has been spending the night with friends or having a girlfriend over to her house to sleep. “My friend, she had a gun, too,” Blanton said.

The dread of being the next victim had caused the staff at Daddy Joe’s to change a lot of things they do, said general manager Rea Smiley, 44…

Yes, Smiley said, she keeps a gun close these days. “I haven’t even gone to the bathroom without it.”

Citizens have been accused of paranoia for buying guns and obtaining concealed carry permits. Oxford English Dictionary defines “paranoia” as: “A tendency to suspect and distrust others or to believe oneself unfairly used.” *

Cody Sossaman, publisher of the Gaffney Ledger who decided to carry a defensive firearm, said: “If you didn’t know at least one of them, you know someone who knew them,” he said.

It’s bad enough when someone you know is killed, but it is “very, very bad” when more and more people you know keep getting killed, Sossaman said.

Two questions for the anti-self-defense “paranoid” accusers:

Is five dead friends and neighbors sufficient justification for Gaffney residents to be distrustful towards Patrick Burris?

Were the five dead victims unfairly used? If you can’t honestly answer “yes,” then one final question:

Why are you so paranoid about law-abiding citizens owning firearms for self-defense?

* The New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, Thumb Index Edition, 1993 Edition, Clarendon Press, page 2097. **************************************** For in-depth analysis of the issues discussed here, read Howard’s book Four Hundred Years of Gun Control: Why Isn’t It Working?, which deconstructs the gun control agenda and motivates more people to support our civil right of self-defense. Autographed copies are available from the author.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: banglist; burris; gaffney; patrickburris; sc; serial; serialkiller
In many parts of the world where the citizenry is officially disarmed, the crime rate is like this all the time.
1 posted on 07/08/2009 5:22:43 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The judicial system in North Carolina (where Burris committed most of his crimes up until the murders in Gaffney) has a lot to answer for right now. This is on the heels of the murder of UNC-Chapel Hill student body president Eve Carson last year...one of her two murderers was out on probation, had never met with his probation officer here in Nifongville (Durham), but she went back in and tried to falsify the records to say he had *after* the news of the murder broke.

}:-)4


2 posted on 07/08/2009 5:26:25 AM PDT by Moose4 (Palin/some guy who can keep it in his pants 2012)
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To: marktwain

In defense of the various government agencies, while he had 25 pages of offenses, they were not indicative of a serial killer, or any killer for that matter. They were convictions of burglary, forgery, parole violation and traffic violations. His history, while bad, wasn’t anything that would point to potential serial killer or mass murderer.


3 posted on 07/08/2009 5:27:24 AM PDT by kenth
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To: marktwain

bttt


4 posted on 07/08/2009 5:27:56 AM PDT by comps4spice
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To: Moose4

None of the crimes mentioned seemed to indicate he was on a path to murder?


5 posted on 07/08/2009 5:31:40 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Moose4
The system has no obligation to actually protect you.
6 posted on 07/08/2009 5:31:40 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: marktwain

Wow, big changes must be coming soon. Unlike the last couple of dozen times a career criminal with a phone book for a rap sheet was out on the streets doing harm. Yep, THIS time, things will be different. Or not. I’m betting not.


7 posted on 07/08/2009 5:42:10 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: kenth

True but they should have slammed him for the parole violations.

They should have thrown him back in to finish serving the 12 year sentence.


8 posted on 07/08/2009 5:42:40 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: marktwain

Some people just need killin’


9 posted on 07/08/2009 5:42:56 AM PDT by erman (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best companion. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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To: kenth

I’ll grant you your points, as far as being a serial murderer is concerned, but his record is certainly indicative of a person who should not be out and around. IMHO, there are people other than serial murderers or rapists who do no belong in society, who need to be kept behind bars indefinitely.


10 posted on 07/08/2009 5:43:55 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: Wolfie
Yep, THIS time, things will be different. Or not. I’m betting not.

Never happen, unless one of the "chosen" people or their relatives is killed. Looked at the law mandating regulations of pool drains... nothing happens unless a senator/representative or high government official's grandkids or children are affected.

11 posted on 07/08/2009 5:45:27 AM PDT by erman (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best companion. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
The system has no obligation to actually protect you.

Ever heard of the following: ... establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish...? [emphasis added]

Sure sounds like the system has an obligation to me...
12 posted on 07/08/2009 5:46:13 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: Lucky Dog
Ever heard of Supreme Court decisions?
13 posted on 07/08/2009 6:10:01 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: nickcarraway

[None of the crimes mentioned seemed to indicate he was on a path to murder?]

Noticed that too. Is it possible that all the scrapes with the law and then the 7 year prison sentence with prisoners who taught him more criminal behaviours( the modern all play and no work prison system makes them twofold more the child of hell it seems to me) may have put him over the edge.


14 posted on 07/08/2009 6:13:37 AM PDT by kindred (Blessed be the LORD out of Zion, which dwelleth at Jerusalem... Ps.135:20)
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To: marktwain

More details here:http://www.charlotteobserver.com/597/story/822175.html


15 posted on 07/08/2009 6:17:15 AM PDT by csmusaret (If you like this economy, keep voting for Donkeys.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
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But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. 8Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. 11And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. 12The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. 13Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. 14But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
16 posted on 07/08/2009 6:21:16 AM PDT by kindred (Blessed be the LORD out of Zion, which dwelleth at Jerusalem... Ps.135:20)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Ever heard of Supreme Court decisions?

You mean like Dred Scott?
17 posted on 07/08/2009 6:22:40 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: Littlejon

Local ping.


18 posted on 07/08/2009 6:22:44 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: All

Has anyone read or heard anything about the two people who were with the perp when he was killed? I’m curious as to their relationship with the killer.


19 posted on 07/08/2009 6:24:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Moose4

A list of the judges who let this predator roam free should be published. We need to see who is responsible for the deaths of these murder victims. Too bad they can’t be personally sued by the grieving families.


20 posted on 07/08/2009 6:26:22 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: nickcarraway
None of the crimes mentioned seemed to indicate he was on a path to murder?

concur, although I frankly don't know what "uttering" is.

21 posted on 07/08/2009 6:26:49 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: kindred

[The system has no obligation to actually protect you]
This is the only reason government exists, that is, to punish the wicked who will not live within the statutes of God. The system has no other obligations and is wrong to run school systems, to fix and install roads and bridges, to make laws contrary to the Constituional rights and liberties God gives mankind and to train children in the way to go. Government today is corrupted because they abridge the rights and liberties that the Christian Constitution gaurantees and has become a refuge for liars and fools that hate and despise American citizens in general and has abandoned their small role in keeping the Constituinal roles given them.They have become totalitarion and huge and are more evil then many who are in jails.

Romans 13 (King James Version)

Romans 13
1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

8Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

10Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

11And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

12The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

13Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.

14But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.


22 posted on 07/08/2009 6:26:53 AM PDT by kindred (Blessed be the LORD out of Zion, which dwelleth at Jerusalem... Ps.135:20)
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To: kindred

Government does not exist to protect me. It exists to tax me.


23 posted on 07/08/2009 6:31:03 AM PDT by csmusaret (If you like this economy, keep voting for Donkeys.)
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To: kindred

You should use a smaller font.


24 posted on 07/08/2009 6:39:16 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: Moose4

I hope they can trace the weapon and demonstrate that it has been in Burris’ possession since before the five murders were committed. A serial killer with a gun used in multiple homicides might find it convenient to clean up and dump the weapon. The ballistics match and hopefully they did get their man, but there’s nothing in the guy’s 25 page rap sheet to indicate he’d be likely to go on a killing spree. I hope I’m just being paranoid, but I’m a little bugged by the police announcing they got the killer on one, albeit profound, piece of evidence within a few hours of his burglary and suicide-by-cop.


25 posted on 07/08/2009 6:47:09 AM PDT by katana
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To: nickcarraway
“None of the crimes mentioned seemed to indicate he was on a path to murder?”

To the degree we can anticipate what the criminal mind leads to, I suspect that is correct. But I believe a burglar has to know he could engage a person who is willing to defend their property with lethal force. In which case the burglar needs to be willing to kill the property owner.

In any case, a lot of jurisdiction’s recidivist laws would have put this guy away for life.

26 posted on 07/08/2009 7:13:16 AM PDT by Never on my watch (You are in the most danger when you are in the company of pacifists.)
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To: Lucky Dog
A little off point but does point out the general trend of the Court to support the “system” not being required to protect a person from harm.
27 posted on 07/08/2009 7:16:55 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: kenth

True, his record did not indicate him becoming a killer.
They did however, point to a serial felon, who should’ve been given a life sentence for being a Habitual Offender.
Here, in the State of Michigan,three convictions gets you life in prison.
Knowing the shambles of our current state, however, suggests that this is probably not taking place, such as in your state.
When budget cuts are announced around here, the first things that happen is that they want to lay off our State Police Troopers and empty and close the prisons.
A pox on the Democrats and RINO.


28 posted on 07/08/2009 7:27:41 AM PDT by gigster
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To: gigster

The people that defend the right to bear arms must understand one thing.
The leftist aka progressive gun haters need dangerous people like this guy out of prison.
Dangerous people allowed to roam the streets of America gives them the needed ammunition to push their right banning agenda.
Not one gun control law pushed by the leftist aka progressive gun haters deals with keeping dangerous people in prison.


29 posted on 07/08/2009 7:42:31 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: DMG2FUN

Good thing it was a law enforcement officer that finally killed the guy. If it had been a private citizen acting heroically, but outside the stupid, restrictive gun laws, it would have brought all kinds of hardship.


30 posted on 07/08/2009 7:50:55 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: kenth

Remember he was only convicted of what he was arrested and tried for. Also we don’t know anything from that report to indicate his general attitude. What you have is someone with a continual disregard for the law and people’s possessions and safety. No they didn’t indicate a killer but only because we don’t know the whole story. What we do know is this is a guy who consistently was let out long before his sentences were served. Not much point in minimum sentences of 5 or 10 or 12 years if you’re going to let someone out after a couple of years. The nutshell being he should have been still in prison.


31 posted on 07/08/2009 7:55:21 AM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Ok… We have a misunderstanding in our communication… my fault for not being more definitive. Therefore, let me clarify.

First, the system IMHO is not necessarily obligated to protect every individual from every possible harm in every possible circumstance. Rather, I view this function as a shared responsibility. A citizen is not barred from self-defense, nor restrained in such an endeavor, nor relieved of such a responsibility by the fact that the system is also charged with sharing that responsibility.

Second, the system IMHO is obligated to maintain a certain minimum societal order. That order is spelled out by the quotation in one of my previous posts: ... establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish...

To expand a bit more on the point, it is neither just, nor does it contribute to domestic tranquility nor does it secure the blessings of liberty for police powers and judicial functions to be abused or neglected. Failure to provide a societal order in which the ordinarily reasonable and prudent man can expect only rarely to have to engage in extraordinary self-defense measures is a prima fascia proof that the system has not maintained the order for which it was ordained and established.

In other words, the system is obligated to provide its citizens with a societal order that provides enough protection through police powers and judicial process to establish justice and insure domestic tranquility. Furthermore, that obligation extends to not impeding a law-abiding citizen’s ability to provide for their own protection. Likewise, the obligation to secure the blessings of liberty means that the system is confined to only exercising police powers and judicial process to the minimum extent required to ensure justice and domestic tranquility.

I trust that I have clarified my point, now.
32 posted on 07/08/2009 8:08:46 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: DMG2FUN

I can’t disagree with anything you wrote.
But gun control has done marvelous things for my Detroit and the South Side of Chicago.
Oh, wait....


33 posted on 07/08/2009 8:09:11 AM PDT by gigster
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To: kittymyrib
A list of the judges who let this predator roam free should be published. We need to see who is responsible for the deaths of these murder victims.

My thoughts exactly. Until we start shining a light on these roaches, they will continue to inflict injury on the public while remaining safely in the shadows. same goes for those on the parole boards.

34 posted on 07/08/2009 9:09:58 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: gigster

You area is extremely safe for the gun toting criminals with the leftist aka progressive gun hater gun control laws.
More law abiding citizens die every day from gun toting criminals then other criminals.


35 posted on 07/08/2009 10:59:12 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: DMG2FUN

Actually, I don’t live anywhere near the squalor of Detroit
anymore. I’m in the far NW Lower Peninsula, where a car getting broken into will make the front page.
You can leave your car running in the winter, while you do your shopping. Rarely are there murders, and if it there is, it’s usually two druggies going at it.
Also, many CCW’s around here. They are much easier to get.
There are not too many places in the world that is this safe imo.


36 posted on 07/08/2009 2:00:16 PM PDT by gigster
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To: Balding_Eagle
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[The system has no obligation to actually protect you] This is the only reason government exists, that is, to punish the wicked who will not live within the statutes of God. The system has no other obligations and is wrong to run school systems, to fix and install roads and bridges, to make laws contrary to the Constituional rights and liberties God gives mankind and to train children in the way to go. Government today is corrupted because they abridge the rights and liberties that the Christian Constitution gaurantees and has become a refuge for liars and fools that hate and despise American citizens in general. 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37 posted on 07/08/2009 3:37:35 PM PDT by SIDENET ("Join me or die. Can you do any less?" -Mr. Sparkle)
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To: SIDENET

That’s GREAT! Thanks for your sense of humor, matches mine.


38 posted on 07/08/2009 4:08:25 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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...one of her two murderers was out on probation, had never met with his probation officer here in Nifongville (Durham), but she went back in and tried to falsify the records to say he had *after* the news of the murder broke.

Happens with 'civil servants' more often than you might expect - please see my 'tag line'...

39 posted on 07/08/2009 7:55:54 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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