Report: Bush surveillance program was massive

AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/10/09 | Pamela Hess - ap

[DJ MacWoW]

Our Constitution applies to our citizens. You are a liberal troll.

[woofie]

The only freedom I gave up after 9/11 was that I waited a bit longer in the airports.....

[Old North State]

Bush surveillance program was massive...

And not a single documented instance where a citizen's rights were violated. Not a single claim that some one was harmed by the surveillance. Well done.

[The_Media_never_lie]

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

--Benjamin Franklin

Nice quote, but who gave up any liberty? Explain....

[jveritas]

Stop quoting the Founding Fathers and the Constitution and at the same time you are advocating rights for the terrorists whose only goal is to destroy our country and everything we stand for. You are making our Founding Fathers turn in their graves. For certain if you lived during the time of our Founding Fathers you would have be hanged for Treason.

[jveritas]

Amen and God Bless President Bush.

[Two Ravens]

Our Constitution applies to our citizens. You are a liberal troll.

You can't agree with our conservative Founders that all men are endowed by their Creator with inalienable (look it up) rights?

And you're calling me a liberal?

Oh, this is rich; I really have to show this to the wife when she gets home

[shield]

What the h3ll would one expect......we were attacked by radical thugs.

[chevydude26]

i’m pretty sure thomas jefferson would have been gung ho about going after terrorists and would have done exactly what Bush did...

[DJ MacWoW]

The U. S. Constitution applies to U.S. citizens. You cannot be that ignorant.

[Two Ravens]

Our conservative Founders said all men and they meant all men. Resorting to "penumbras" and other such foolishness to thwart the plain-spoken meanings of the Founders is the liberal way.

They said exactly what they meant, and I'm not the one trying to wriggle out of that here.

[Ramius]

Back to your original post... what essential liberty did we lose under Bush?

Seems to me I’ve got all of the same liberty I had before.

[DJ MacWoW]

Do you really believe that they intended to apply our Bill of Rights and Constitution to the world? How egotistical do you believe they were?! They designed our rights and freedoms for our citizens. Anyone who is a US citizen has these rights and it does not include anyone in Al Quaeda.

Tell me whose rights the Bush administration violated. ONE case. Give me one. You can't.

Foreigners and enemy combatants have no right to claim our freedoms and rights. They are trying to destroy them.

[Two Ravens]

Do you really believe that they intended to apply our Bill of Rights and Constitution to the world? How egotistical do you believe they were?! They designed our rights and freedoms for our citizens. Anyone who is a US citizen has these rights and it does not include anyone in Al Quaeda.

All men means all men. Our Founders said that all men were endowed these rights by the Creator. It would be foolish to say that the Creator only gave those rights to Americans--and that's why they didn't say it.

They said the Creator gave them to all men

They said that it is self-evident that the Creator gave all men those rights; those inalienable rights.

They weren't speaking in parables; they said what they meant, and to wrangle what they clearly said is the liberal way, not the conservative way.

[DJ MacWoW]

It would be foolish to say that the Creator only gave those rights to Americans--and that's why they didn't say it.

Again. Those rights are only guaranteed to US citizens. We have no influence on another country.

Those rights do not apply to those trying to destroy our country and it's citizens.

Now tell me, whose rights have been violated by the Bush administration. Cite a case.

[Two Ravens]

Again. Those rights are only guaranteed to US citizens. We have no influence on another country.

We're not talking here about other countries violating the inalienable rights given by the Creator to all men. And if you'd read the posted article, you wouldn't be asking me to reveal information that is clearly still being kept hidden.

[jveritas]

Now tell me, whose rights have been violated by the Bush administration. Cite a case.

He cannot because he is a just a lying liberal (I know it is a redundancy).

[Ramius]

There has never been any evidence presented that any wiretaps were done that violated the Constitution. Not one. Just because you believe some lunatic tinfoilers doesn’t mean any of us should.

[Griddlee]

How do you know about hidden information?