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To: ZULU

==Then then leap to ANOTHER unrelated conclusion - that Chimps and Humans have no connection evolutionarily.

It is the Evos who leap to make the evolutionary connection, even though there are zero transitionals.

==They would have us believe that ALL the chemical, osteological, genetic, behavioral, etc. similarities between all living organism is a mere matter of chance and there is no biological connection between the bodies of humans and other living organisms.

Not at all. Creationists posit the far more obvious and plausible explanation, namely that all the similarities you mentioned are the product of a common designer rather than common descent.

==But like other people in the past who attacked things like the heliocentric theory of the solar system based on flawed and biased interpretations of scripture, the more data that is generated on the subject, the more flawed and unbelievable your claims are.

Wrong again. Galileo’s main enemies were the Aristotelian/Ptolemaic scientific establishment, not the Catholic Church. Indeed, the Catholic Church was quite friendly to heliocentrism. May I suggest you read the following before making similar comments in the future:

http://creation.com/the-galileo-affair-history-or-heroic-hagiography


28 posted on 07/13/2009 11:20:31 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
That is a very interesting link and includes a lot of factual information on the heliocentric theory and the geocentrists.

But despite the fact that the cause for the case against Galileo was really personal and political, the reason the accusation had legs, as it were, was because the bulk of the populace and a good proportion of the clergy DID believe that to question the geocentric theory was heresy.

If it was purely a matter of politics and not philosophy, a guy named Copernicus would never have required that his work on the heliocentric nature of the solar system not be published until his death.

I draw an analogy between geocentrists and anti-evolutionists - I think “creationist” is inappropriate as as an evolutionist, I do NOT discount the hand of God in creating the laws of evolution - because like the geocentrists, they use scriptural statements which are related to theological points as a basis for drawing scientific conclusions.

35 posted on 07/13/2009 11:34:01 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Galileo’s main enemies were the Aristotelian/Ptolemaic scientific establishment”

—Find any examples yet of these scientists of the “Aristotelian/Ptolemaic scientific establishment”?

“It is the Evos who leap to make the evolutionary connection, even though there are zero transitionals.”

—Maybe my imagination is lacking, but I could hardly imagine a better series of transitional fossils showing the evolution from ape-like creatures (the Australopithecines) to modern humans - and they are laid out in order in the ground. What more could one ask for? I suppose I could imagine *more* fossils, but one could always imagine *more*, and we have many thousands. If nothing we currently have counts as a transitional ape/man to you, than what - hypothetically - would suffice? What would be a perfect example of a transitional fossil?


84 posted on 07/13/2009 6:52:40 PM PDT by goodusername
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