[Darren McCarty]

I'm not shocked. This is politics. It is about power. That is first and foremost in any battle involving any type of politics.

Sean Connery said it best in the Untouchables. That is the Chicago way.

[swain_forkbeard]

I usually refer to the scene in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid where Lerch challenges Butch to a knife fight, and Butch wants to get the rules straight.