Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Man killed when car plunges into Grand Canyon
CNN ^ | July 14, 2009

Posted on 07/14/2009 9:33:55 AM PDT by rdl6989

A man died after his car plunged 600 feet off the edge of the Grand Canyon's South Rim, authorities said Tuesday. The Arizona park's regional communications center received several reports of a car driving off the edge about 6 a.m. Monday, according to a written statement.

"Upon arriving at the scene, investigators found tire tracks leading to the edge behind the Thunderbird Lodge and received reports of a single occupant in a blue passenger car driving over the edge," the statement said.

Rescue personnel descended on ropes and found the vehicle about 600 feet into the canyon. The man's body was recovered shortly afterward, the statement said.

The incident occurred near the El Tovar hotel in a village on the canyon's South Rim, park spokeswoman Shannan Marcak said.

Authorities have not ruled the death a suicide, she said. "It has not been ruled anything at this time."

The statement said the National Park Service is investigating. Typically, Marcak said, such investigations take at least a few days.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: grandcanyon; terminalvelocity
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160161-165 next last
To: pappyone
So if I stand on the top of the canyon and shoot a pistol at the bottom, the bullet will only travel 32ft/sec? Just askin, I’m math challenged.

No, it would be traveling the initial speed + 32 ft/second squared - deceleration due to wind resistance. Likely the acceleration due to gravity can be ignored because the gravity component would be neglible compared to the initial speed, and the time would be short.

121 posted on 07/14/2009 11:52:43 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (See www.buyingapuppy.com for News on Dogs and Puppies)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: ChocChipCookie

That was my son too!!! Once screamed at me that I was going to let his sister die because she was standing at the rail at the Ruby Falls Overlook.

He grew up to be a combat medic and has had to stablize injured persons in just such situations. His concern for his patients overrode his fear, but he still does NOT like heights. He trained with Airborne, jumped out of helicopters - would rather not.


122 posted on 07/14/2009 12:05:30 PM PDT by Roses0508
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: ErnBatavia
My wife isn't a fan of heights and kept her distance from the edge when we visited the Grand Canyon. I, on the other hand...


123 posted on 07/14/2009 12:26:25 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: bill1952; MikeWUSAF
Unless the car was launched at an angle, the horizontal speed of the car is not relevant to the vertical distance it fell.

The formula to use is d = 0.5 * g * t^2.
Solving for t would give sqrt(600 ft * 2 / 32 ft/sec^2)= 6.1 seconds.

In those 6.1 seconds the car would travel (6 sec) * (40 mi/hr) * (5280 ft/mi) / (3600 sec/hr) = 358 ft away from the canyon wall, assuming the canyon wall was vertical and the horizontal speed of the car remained constant.

124 posted on 07/14/2009 12:48:55 PM PDT by Cooter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: ChocChipCookie

I get dizzy on a step ladder. Hubby was griping recently because I still haven’t hung the family pictures after 3 years in the new house. I told him to get his happy butt up on the ladder and do it himself!


125 posted on 07/14/2009 1:16:18 PM PDT by ravingnutter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Osage Orange
I felt safer jumping out of an airplane...a few weeks ago.

I never understood what possesses people to jump out of a perfectly good airplane...you wouldn't get me in one to begin with, LOL!

126 posted on 07/14/2009 1:24:42 PM PDT by ravingnutter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: Puppage
When I die I want to go like my Grandfather, in my sleep. Not screaming & yelling like the people in the backseat.

Took a while to sink in, but it's so much funnier that way, thanks for the laugh (and hopefully that's not true - he he)
127 posted on 07/14/2009 1:27:34 PM PDT by Scythian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: the_devils_advocate_666

Dude, even looking at that picture takes my stomach away, uncool, very uncool ....


128 posted on 07/14/2009 1:29:23 PM PDT by Scythian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 123 | View Replies]

To: Scythian
Took a while to sink in, but it's so much funnier that way, thanks for the laugh (and hopefully that's not true - he he)

:-)

129 posted on 07/14/2009 1:35:05 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 127 | View Replies]

To: Cooter

Heh. Good job there.

Back to my original post, think of those last seconds during the final plunge!


130 posted on 07/14/2009 1:44:18 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 124 | View Replies]

To: Lonesome in Massachussets

What I.m saying is that the bullet is aerodynamically designed to lessen drag . In that matter the terminal velocity will not be reached before the bullet hits the bottom of the canyon . The bullet should impact in about 4 sec. if the canyon is a mile deep . I shoot SHOTGUN target loads that travel at 1400 FPS .


131 posted on 07/14/2009 1:48:59 PM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 112 | View Replies]

To: ravingnutter
I will tell you something nuts.....the plane that I jumped out of....crashed about 3 weeks after I jumped out of it!!

Thank God...nobody was hurt. But I inspected the "crash site"....and I bet it was scary!!

Nevertheless....I am jumping again!!

One of the best things I've ever done...!!

132 posted on 07/14/2009 1:52:41 PM PDT by Osage Orange (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. - Will Rogers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 126 | View Replies]

To: ravingnutter

Flying is safer than driving on the highway.


133 posted on 07/14/2009 1:53:54 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 126 | View Replies]

To: Travis T. OJustice
Flying is safer than driving on the highway.

How'd you come up with that brilliant conclusion...less women drivers? {snark}...

Not true. The only acceptable method to compare risk between air travel and automobile travel is based on the number of deaths per hour of exposure.

Data from a respected safety analyst, Trevor Kletz, show that air travel has a fatal-accident frequency rate four times higher than that for driving a car. For airplane travel there are approximately 2.4 deaths per million hours of exposure; for travel by car the figure is 0.6 deaths per million hours of exposure.

Simply put, for the same number of hours riding in a car or riding in an airplane, you are four times more likely to be killed in an airplane than in a car.

-- JOHN M. HOFFMANN President Safety Engineering Labs Inc. Detroit, Nov. 22, 1994

Statistically that is the case if you figure it on a per-hour basis. When you figure it on a per-trip basis, car, train and bus come out safer than the airplane.

The Last Inspector

Driving: 1.1 fatalities per fatal accident

General Aviation: 1.7 fatalities per fatal accident

Airlines: 31 fatalities per fatal accident

Source

134 posted on 07/14/2009 2:39:47 PM PDT by ravingnutter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 133 | View Replies]

To: Travis T. OJustice

Not if you’re flying off the rim of a canyon, it’s not.


135 posted on 07/14/2009 2:42:36 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 133 | View Replies]

To: ravingnutter

Neah.

The correct way to figure it is to measure per miles of travel, not hours of exposure.
After all, you don’t get nearly as much “exposure” flying 600 miles as you do driving 600 miles. You get about 1 hour exposure on a commercial aircraft, vs. about 10 hours on the highway.


136 posted on 07/14/2009 2:46:48 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 134 | View Replies]

To: Pete

They tell you down front, “This is not Disney World! It’s wilderness, and it is NOT designed for safety.”


137 posted on 07/14/2009 3:08:34 PM PDT by thulldud (It HAS happened here!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: reagan_fanatic
"Personally, I think he's insane."

Hope his pay is worth the risk.
I actually find that picture difficult to look at.

138 posted on 07/14/2009 3:10:26 PM PDT by StormEye
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: Moose4
Thunderbird Lodge

Coincidence? I, think not.

139 posted on 07/14/2009 3:19:07 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: StormEye

I do too. I get weak knees at the top of a 15ft. ladder. There’s no way I could ever do what he does.


140 posted on 07/14/2009 3:19:19 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 138 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160161-165 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson