[a fool in paradise]

Do you stand with the liberals who also said (in the wake of the fall of Saddam) that “democracy isn’t (right) for everyone”?

[Romulus]

You say that it is pointless to try to convert muslims in Iraq and elsewhere.

No I didn't. I said you are not going to have significant success importing evangelical protestantism, especially in a land with its own history of a real -- viz., apostolic -- church.

You don't have to be a liberal (quite the opposite, in fact) to believe that democracy as an ideology has fundamental flaws.