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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

If you don’t have a problem with the poll or the questions no matter who wrote them then what “spin” did the posted article give the results of the poll that was not reflected in the responses to the poll?

So where’s the beef?


42 posted on 07/15/2009 1:36:52 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
If you don’t have a problem with the poll or the questions no matter who wrote them then what “spin” did the posted article give the results of the poll that was not reflected in the responses to the poll?

Question from the poll:
“QUESTION: Would you strongly agree, somewhat agree, somewhat disagree, or strongly disagree that teachers and students should have the academic freedom to discuss both the STRENGTHS and WEAKNESSES of evolution as a scientific theory?” (caps mine)

The article this thread is about says

According to the report, which was commissioned by the Discovery Institute Center for Science and Culture, respondents were given the two following statements:

Statement A: “Biology teachers should teach only Darwin’s theory of evolution and the scientific evidence that supports it.”

Statement B: “Biology teachers should teach Darwin’s theory of evolution, but also the scientific evidence against it.”

Nothing in there about "strengths and weaknesses." As I said back in #23, the spin is that the poll (as reported) asks about "scientific evidence against," but then the writer claims that if offers support for teaching the "weaknesses of."

Now I see that the question you posted is in the full poll. (I searched on the text of the question.) This question, in fact, is not objective. The question is worded so as to actually be a question about "academic freedom" and "discussion." The DI writers immediately claim that it supports "teaching the controversy." There's a difference between discussing and teaching. I bet you'd get similar results is you asked people whether "teachers and students should have the academic freedom to discuss whether the Holocaust actually took place." Most people would probably say they should have the "freedom" to "discuss" it. That doesn't mean they think teachers should teach Holocaust denial as an equally valid alternative theory.

45 posted on 07/15/2009 8:50:22 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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