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It's Official! Hawaii never issued Obama's 2007 Certification of Live Birth
The Greater Evil ^ | 07/14/2009 | Polarik

Posted on 07/14/2009 4:03:41 PM PDT by Polarik

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To: mojitojoe

I don’t know, can’t read it...here’s what I get when I click on #15:

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/15/


181 posted on 07/16/2009 5:58:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: mojitojoe

funny, I can’t bring up that page you showed a capture of...but the little I can read, it would appear it has the wording we are looking for. Can you please enlarge or transcibe it?


182 posted on 07/16/2009 6:28:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

That is the correct link. Click on that link, scroll down about half way and it’s under II. You will see it, it’s the first paragraph. You can also download the screen shot and use the magnifier tool on your computer to read it. I don’t know why it’s so small and blurry when I posted it.


183 posted on 07/16/2009 7:52:25 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Fred Nerks
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184 posted on 07/16/2009 8:01:01 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe

thanks, I have filed that under ‘embarrassed’ in my file, will quote it whenever the subject comes up, or someone asks...

It’s evident that this is what Berg was quoting from.


185 posted on 07/16/2009 9:39:23 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Polarik

Here are some mad people and they want to see the damn birth certificate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1nmn2zRMc


186 posted on 07/17/2009 12:41:29 AM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: mojitojoe

They certainly are very angry people, but what I didn’t like was the dismissive attitude of the man on the podium. Who was he?


187 posted on 07/17/2009 3:58:55 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Congressman Castle from Delaware, I believe. Must be a ‘town hall’ meeting...


188 posted on 07/17/2009 4:15:37 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: All

Watch the liberals in your rear view mirror try and look away from the back of your car. It also fun to pull in front of cars with Obama stickers. This has been as much fun as my CBS, No Matter how you slice it, it is still Perjury bump sticker.

189 posted on 07/17/2009 4:23:33 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is an illegal alien)
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To: Polarik

I’m not so sure that you can say any state issues a certificate of live birth.

A Certificate is signed by the attending physician under penalties of perjury that he delivered a live child on such and such a date.

It is witnessed and attested to by the hospital registrar, or another witness.

So it seems to me that it is more of an affidavit that the state recognizes - not a document that the state generates.


190 posted on 07/17/2009 4:24:07 AM PDT by djf (Man up! Don't be a FReeloader! Make a donation today!)
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To: djf
So it seems to me that it is more of an affidavit that the state recognizes - not a document that the state generates.

NO, that would be called a "Letter of Verification." Also, don't confuse "Certificate" with "Certification." Ther former is the original BC, the latter is a computer-generated form, but it is what Hawaii, and most states, issues as a birth certificate. Except in certain cases, the "Certification of Live Birth" is what Hawaii will send you when you request a copy of your birth certificate.

It can be used like a regular birth certificate, but it will not prove where one was born as they issued these to foreign-born children.

191 posted on 07/17/2009 5:40:49 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: FourtySeven

Thanks! I’ll give him a call. WNS’s Joe Farah has not bought into the forgery issue, but maybe Les will.


192 posted on 07/17/2009 2:20:55 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...
Yea actually you can. The only Machine Stamper they have that does the date ABOVE Onaka’s stamp is in the By Mail order room. I was told they only had one stamp like that, and thats where it is.

That's not what Onaka said, and I'll take his word over anyone else's.

193 posted on 07/17/2009 2:28:36 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Polarik

Have you seen this article?:

http://washingtonindependent.com/51489/birther-movement-picks-up-steam

Supposedly a quote from Janice Okubo, but no date given for the comment nor who she was speaking to:

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”

Interesting choice of words: “certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign.”

Now somebody needs to go back and ask her boss whether she’s vouching for that COLB and every piece of data on it.


194 posted on 07/17/2009 2:31:02 PM PDT by Greenperson
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