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'Obamaloo' approaching for the president?
One News Now ^ | 7/15/2009 | Chad Groening

Posted on 07/15/2009 5:26:38 AM PDT by IbJensen

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To: Redleg Duke
Gettysburg day 3 is a perfect example of making assumptions about your enemy. To paraphrase Longstreet no 15,000 men ever born could take that hill if the enemy kept their nerve. The entire plan counted on the Union troops being demoralized and running if pressed hard. Yet all the Union had to do was remain calm and fire three aimed rounds a minute. There was plenty of evidence from day 1 and 2 that the Union troops had good moral and would give ground only a great cost.

Obama continually worries about intentions rather that capabilities. In other words he looks at what an opponent is likely to do rather than what they are able to do. You can get away with that for a while, but it will eventually bit you. Look at what Gov. Palin just did. They had a plan to keep her out of play for 2012 by bombarding her with frivolous lawsuits. Their plan counted in her staying in Alaska and on the defensive until her term was up in 2011. They never counted on her doing something radical like resigning and then going on a PR offensive in 2009. Regardless of if you like Gov. Palin as a GOP standard bearer or not she has thrown a monkey wrench into the Democrats plans.
21 posted on 07/15/2009 7:21:10 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP
Yes, you are quite correct. The RATS are counting on the Republicans doing what they expect them to do. Palin has, as you said, "thrown a monkey wrench" into their plans.

Now, they have to unleash their media lap rats onto her. To read their attacks is to smell the fear and desperation in them. They are terrified of her.

22 posted on 07/15/2009 8:08:55 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: GonzoGOP
Imho, excellent posts (including #18).

I concur.

23 posted on 07/15/2009 8:15:05 AM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: GonzoGOP
Regardless of if you like Gov. Palin as a GOP standard bearer or not she has thrown a monkey wrench into the Democrats plans.

I disagree. Sarah Palin is to the Democrats for 2012, what Newt Gingrich was for the Democrats in 1996: a convenient, polarizing, and easily demonized figure who can be used to tarnish the Republicans in general.

The exact details of their plans for Sarah Palin will of course be different from what they did with Gingrich ... it'll be based on her lack of experience, and so on.

Sarah Palin herself has helped them out on this. Regardless of how unfairly she was treated (and that was very unfairly), the fact is that their tactics worked. Sarah Palin resigned because of them. That's like blood in the water for them... and in campaign mode, that would all be played out in the media, rather than through legal (and therefore more controlled) conditions.

24 posted on 07/15/2009 9:50:13 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: IbJensen


*his name is obozo, because he’s nothing more than a pathetic Marxist clown.

25 posted on 07/15/2009 9:51:30 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
Of all the Marxists in history, this imbecilic, moron had to pretend he was born in the USA, move to Chicago, become a community agitator and be elected president of a republic that was viable about 25 years ago.

Now. Where is our Francisco Franco?

26 posted on 07/15/2009 9:58:34 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholics voted based upon the teachings of the church, there would be no abortion and no Obomba.)
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To: r9etb
...it'll be based on her lack of experience, and so on.

The present Marxist fool who heads the American Socialist Party (DemocRATs) had no experience other than rabble rousing before the idiots elected him president.

In four years his sycophants will claim he has lots of experience running (ruining) America and should be re-elected in order that he can finish the work he began: finishing off America.

27 posted on 07/15/2009 10:02:03 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholics voted based upon the teachings of the church, there would be no abortion and no Obomba.)
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To: IbJensen
The present Marxist fool who heads the American Socialist Party (DemocRATs) had no experience other than rabble rousing before the idiots elected him president.

True ... and his performance to date shows that a lack of experience is a huge problem.

The problem for Sarah Palin is that her experience is only marginally better than Obama's, and many times that lack of experience has (painfully) showed in her inability to give good answers to questions on matters like the economy or foreign policy.

More to the point, however, "lack of experience" will not be an issue with Obama in 2012, who by that time will have been president for 4 years. However, because she resigned it will remain an issue for Sarah Palin.

I strongly believe the Obama will have destroyed his authority by 2012; but I also believe that the Republicans can nevertheless get him re-elected by selecting a candidate like Sarah Palin. She is simply not ready for the presidency, and is extremely unlikely to change that in the next year or two.

28 posted on 07/15/2009 10:42:44 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
This all misses my point that it was her decision to do something unexpected and unconventional that forced the Democrats to have to change tactics. If she had stayed in the bunker and continued to fight frivolous lawsuit after frivolous lawsuit in the courts is was a 100% loss. So she broke out. Forced the Democrats to react to her. Will they wipe her out, possibly, but it is quite clear that the Democrats had not anticipated this move.

Going back to the military examples we used earlier. Would it have been safe for Nimitz to have done the "Safe" thing and kept his fleet back at Pearl harbor rather than go on the offensive at Midway.

When tipped that the Japanese were setting a trap for him he avoided it by sending his last carriers out to attack the Japanese instead. This was a huge risk. The Japanese still outnumbered the US 3-1 in terms of carrier striking power (6 heavy + 4 light carriers to 3 heavy). But due to Japan's arrogance they left two heavy carriers at home sent two light carriers to the Aleutians and detailed two light carriers to guard battleships. Had Nimitz done the safe thing, as the Japanese expected him to do, the Japanese would have massed their forced and destroyed him when he arrived. By doing the unexpected he was able to smash part of the Japanese fleet before the rest could come up to support it. Since playing it safe was a 100% assured loss even a 25% chance of victory was preferable.

The GOP needs to watch for liberal traps and when it finds itself in one immediately side step it. Obama is not good thinking on his feet. If you do what is "expected" then you will loose to him every time.
29 posted on 07/15/2009 11:29:05 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP
This all misses my point that it was her decision to do something unexpected and unconventional that forced the Democrats to have to change tactics.

Well, no ... their tactics are the same in any case, and her resignation just makes their lives that much easier.

30 posted on 07/15/2009 11:37:31 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: bestintxas
I am furious at people like Powell or even JC Watts who supported his election due to its “historical precendent”

I am not. It proves they were never either philosophical conservative constitutionalist, i.e., color-blind, proponents of liberty and freedom...instead they were fair-weather-only RINOs.

Obama's Communism is merely a new form of "cultural relativism" for them...anything and everything advanced in the name, or pretext, of "economic justice" is "fair" to them.

31 posted on 07/15/2009 1:43:16 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: GonzoGOP
Excellent Post.

One note: “The GOP needs to watch for liberal traps”

with few exceptions the GOP seems unable to think outside their limp wristed RINO play-book let alone be tactical and/or strategic. The rats fight like barbarians to the death and the GOP like wusses.

Rush mentioned Palin and 3rd Party on Monday and he didn't like the idea. But it seems that it may become increasingly necessary. The GOP as Constituted today seem unwilling and incapable of defeating the Rats. If the Rats loose it will be because they defeated themselves not from any GOP return to Founding Principles that I can see.

32 posted on 07/15/2009 4:56:48 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: IbJensen; All
“be elected president of a republic that was viable about 25 years ago...”

Well, Ronald Reagan left office 20 years ago to the day that obozo took office.

I love Reagan immensely and if the course that he set our nation on would have been maintained just imagine how incredibly different things would be today.

With that in mind I unhappily point out that, IMO, the Gipper’s single greatest mistake was selecting GHW Bush as his running mate.

“Where is our Francisco Franco?” I doubt we have one. It will be a grass roots lead movement. Sarah may become part of a great group of Patriot voices that rallies us to a critical mass.

33 posted on 07/15/2009 5:26:35 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
Reagan was the greatest president since Calvin Cooledge.

We desperately need a strong, unwavering candidate and we need him to emerge now.

34 posted on 07/16/2009 4:57:01 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholics voted based upon the teachings of the church, there would be no abortion and no Obomba.)
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To: GonzoGOP
Ambition turns to arrogance when you count not only on the abilities of your own forces, but assume that your enemy will behave in a stupid or cowardly manner.

If I were a general on the eve of a battle, I would pray for two things:

1. Please let my enemies believe that I'm an idiot, and
2. Please let me not prove them correct.

35 posted on 07/16/2009 5:00:36 AM PDT by kevkrom
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
I can’t believe the number of conservatives who don’t recognize the following facts which are as clear as the nose on thier respective faces.

If unemployment hits 15% (and it will) Obama will not be able to cheat his way to a second term.

Roosevelt did.

36 posted on 07/17/2009 1:15:25 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: KYGrandma
The MSM spouts their mantra constantly until people believe it. Why, then, can’t we constantly tell the truth, until it is heard and believed?

Because the MSM is on your music radio station at the top of the hour, every hour.

And the MSM is on the next twenty radio stations you listen to, up and down the AM and FM dial. All day. Every day.

The MSM is on your television, on several stations, during your dinner time.

The MSM is in your local newspaper, no matter which of the thousands of towns and cities you live near, all across the U.S.

The number of persons who listen to Rush or Hannity, or read FR, or seek out and listen to conservative news and opinion, is small compared to the number of persons who get their view of the world passively from the MSM.

Rush is on once a day, for two or three hours, on one or two AM stations near you. Liberal news is on 24 times a day, every day of the week, on the same radio station that broadcasts Rush. And every other station.

37 posted on 07/17/2009 1:23:25 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: mbarker12474

Sigh. The MSM is indeed the problem. Note how they make it a crisis situation if even ONE of them were on the verge of being taken over by a free enterprise supporting capitalist, who would not tolerate or continue the communist editorial slant? This muzzling of conservative views, by sheer quantity of MSM, has every sign of being orchestrated.


38 posted on 07/22/2009 11:14:14 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: cpforlife.org
“Where is our Francisco Franco?” I doubt we have one.

We don't want one. We need a George Washington.

39 posted on 07/22/2009 12:27:27 PM PDT by rfp1234
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