Posted on 07/15/2009 5:37:44 AM PDT by buggy02
Well...It depends on who his father is. If it Obama Sr. ( a British subject), NO he would be a citizen but NOT a natural born citizen.
That should read:
Throw
Well that works for me.
And there is precedent in the case of Congressman Matt “Spitting” Lyon who was jailed while a member of Congress but campaigned for re-election from jail and won. This was around 1790.
Nope, that has been discussed at length in the threads of last fall on this issue. Birth in America to one American parent bestows American citizenship. Now birth to an American mother aboard does as well but when Urkle was born the mother had to be over 18 for this to come into effect. She was 17 so this is even stickier than ever.
American citizenship.
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There is a difference between **natural born** citizenship, and ordinary citizenship. A president must be a **natural born** citizen.
The constitutionality issue does not change the fact that he is a sitting president de facto. A sitting president can be legally removed only through the constitutionally prescribed process of impeachment.
Only should the Court or House rule that he is not president de jure can it be concluded that he must be removed.
US Marshalls are under HIS command so they are not going to receive any orders for removal. In fact, I would assume there are no laws even governing such a thing from a federal perspective outside of the normal election law. So he would have to indicted for fraud of some sort, tried and convicted before any police forces could remove him to jail and even then he would not be removed from the presidency unless Congress acted.
Now a decent man like Nixon resigned rather than put the country through an impeachment trial. But self-centered scumbags like Urkle and the Ozark Godfather think nothing about endangering the nation for their own benefit.
Should this continue to fester and court rulings start being issued then my only hope would be for the electorate to vote enough Democrats out in 2010 so that the RAT party would understand that something had to be done. Unfortunately, the electorate seems to be deluded and/or supine. Apparently, it needs to suffer more.
I have just had a Saul Alinsky chuckle! ( Thank you!)
CALLING ALL CONSERVATIVES!! CALLING ALL CONSERVATIVES!!!
We must now start calling Obama by the following title:
“Sitting President de Facto Obama”!!! ( Has a nice ring to it. Doesn't it? :-)
(Laughing as I post this!)
What has his file have to do with anything? While I am sure it is chock full of lies there is nothing which would change anything I have maintained.
And we can introduce him as “ here his is hisself, de one and only, de FACTO.”
You claimed to know for a fact he never claimed any other citizenship as an adult. Therefore, you must know what citizenship he claimed as an 18-20 year old student an Occidental. Therefore you must have seen a copy of his Occidental files. How did you get a copy?
You need to re-read whatever you thought said that.
All I said was - only an adult natural born citizen could renounce his citizenship. I have no doubt Urkle never did that.
Doesn’t matter about adoption by a foreign national, claims of another country’s laws as to his citizenship or whether he traveled on a foreign passport. Any or all that may be true but does not matter.
If he was born in Kenya as Kenyan media has claimed as well as Kenyan family members then it is Game Over and we will see the biggest constitutional crisis since 1861 when an effort was made to negate another election .
What if O's election were an elaborate and intentional footpath to over-turning by precedent the Constitutional requirements for the U.S. Presidency, thus paving the way for a multi-national candidate like...say...Arnold?
U.S.W. The United States of the World. Strange Days have found us.
This has nothing to do with Arnold. Or any Republican that is the last thing these creeps want.
It is interesting to note that the RATs brought up McCain’s birth in the Canal Zone attempting to disqualify him although he was obviously a natural born citizen.
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