Lou Dobbs Talking about Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue

Lou Dobbs Radio ^ | 7/15/09 | Lou Dobbs

[nclaurel]

Klinton was adopted was he not, so why would who his father is bother BHO? Even it it were Frank Davis that would only ensure his ties with the African American community and his lousy friends. It would seem more reasonable that while none of that would disqualify him as President, being not born on American soil certainly would. He is spending a fortune to hide something.

[algernonpj]

Which means he is illegitimate and by default is of the mother’s nationality which is American, no matter where he was born. Thus, it is a non-issue.

IIRC at the time Obama was born, per immigration law, his mother was not old enough to pass on citizenship; he would have taken on his father's Kenyan/British citizenship, i.e. assuming his father is Obama sr.

[jocwhales]

...”All one big scam that is kept secret and our media fell for it even though they had the facts laid out before them. It was more important to elect the first black President then to protect our Nation.”

You give the MSM more credit for being real journalists than I do. To say they “fell” for the scam is being generous. I view them as being part of it for the very reason you cite. They wanted to shepherd in the historical change of having a minority elected President. There were so many questions that could have been asked of Obama about his past that weren’t even shown the light of day.

re the morph, I haven’t found the one I was looking for, but this site, http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html, has some comparative photos within it that are, at the very least, interestingly similar.

[steve-b]

Claim: A Certification of Live Birth provided by the Obama campaign is a forgery.
Status: FALSE

[Lmo56]

If all this came to pass, Biden would be our next POTUS and he will continue BHO’s policies.

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I been thru this a hundred times with people ...

The Electoral College elects POTUS and the VEEP.

Read the following portions of the Constitution:

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Article II - The Executive Branch

Section 1 - The President

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

(The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not lie an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two-thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice-President.) (This clause in parentheses was superseded by the 12th Amendment.)

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

(In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.) (This clause in parentheses has been modified by the 20th and 25th Amendments.)

Amendment 12 - Choosing the President, Vice-President. Ratified 6/15/1804.

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;

The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

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Continuing on with my opinion:

The Electoral College was constituted in January with a MAJORITY of Obama electors, who were also Biden electors - these were the electors that the citizens voted for in the general election. Thus, Obama became POTUS and Biden became VEEP.

However, each state’s Constitution provides that ONLY eligible candidates can get their electoral votes. Under this, assuming Obama ineligible, his votes would be thrown out and McCain would be declared the winner in each state that Obama “won”.

McCain’s electors would then be seated in the “new” Electoral College (and Obama would have none since he was ineligible - and McCain would be declared the winner. This “second” Electoral College would be required since the first one “elected” an ineligible candidate.

Presumably, this “new” Electoral College would then name Palin VEEP.

One wrinkle:

Could Biden claim that his election as VEEP was valid ???
Not sure, since he ran as a ticket with Obama. In states with separate voting for POTUS and VEEP (I don’t know of any), his electors might be ok. In states where it is a ticket (the majority), his electors might not be ok. I guess it depends on each state’s Constitution. Voters might sue claiming that they would not have voted for Biden as the top of the ticket.

So, I guess that there could be a possibility of McCain/Biden.

Certainly, SCOTUS would have to be involved in all of this and they might declare the election null and void - and order a new one.

[Mac from Cleveland]

You do have to wonder. I wonder who his father is — Malcolm X perhaps?

I think his dad was a florist--

Reason for that is, the son came out a blooming idiot.....

[Mac from Cleveland]

His plan B is the backing of millions in the midst of our society who have no respect for law—a confluence of low IQs, paranoia, perennial grievance, and boundless and unwarranted “self-esteem” and sense of entitlement.

Wanna bet they’ll sit quietly and watch his removal by Congress? They won’t care if the evidence fills a warehouse.

[TYVets]

Does Frank Davis have any living male descendants or brothers? Comparing that male’s DNA to Obama’s is the only back-door way around this BC issue.

This $200 test is used all the time in genealogy research. But getting the DNA would be the trick. Wish this were as easy as an episode of CSI Miami.

How about a grass roots movement to collect samples of DNA?

Waiters, waitress, barber shops, lots of "little people" out there to collect the samples. No need to go public with it until the evidence is conclusive.

Let them worry about hearing footsteps until it happens.

I had a 67 marker test run,,,,, It works !

[algernonpj]

Fight The Smears" website.

Such a site does not exist.

It did; it was launched ~ June, 2008.

However it seems to have joined Zero's BC, School records, medical records, etc. I couldn't restore it using archive.org.

[nascarnation]

NO my position is that Baraq could commit a felony on national tv and there’s ZERO chance that the Pelosi/Reid Congress would do anything to remove him.

Our efforts have to be on Congress 2010 and produce gridlock.
Just like 94 when the Clintonians were stalemated.

[1951Boomer]

“It amazes me that Obama hasn’t found some Mexican coyote who could forge him a new Birf Cert if need be.”

Yes, by clamoring for the BC, we just may GET one. If fraud experts also claim THAT perfectly aged facsimile to be a forgery as they did the COLB, then we look even more like kooks. There has to be paperwork somewhere linking to the BC that they neglected to erase. Instead of focusing wholly on the locked-up BC in Hawaii, maybe we should be looking for other paper trails that will lead to the BC.

[surrey]

Jay Severin, up here in Boston, just had Ann Coulter on his show. The birth certificate issue came up and she said she thinks it’s bogus. Jay thinks that there’s nothing wrong with a little investigative work but she pretty much poo-pooed it. Color me disappointed.

[bamahead]

First of all, precisely who will remove BHO as POTUS? He commands the armed forces and the Congress and MSM feed out of his hand.

Thomas Jefferson has already answered your question:

WHEN, in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's GOD entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the Causes which impel them to the Separation.

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

[bmwcyle]

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[Nasher]

Alan Keyes currently on with Lou!

[RinaseaofDs]

“We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.”

We no longer agree that these truths are self-evident. We don’t, as a country, believe in a CREATOR. We also thing that all three rights are very alienable.

Franklin said that our form of government would only work in limited circumstances. You can’t govern the ignorant with it, and that’s where we are.

[American Dream 246]

Please anyone has a link to Lou Dobbs audio or video? Thank you :-)

[cartoonistx]

If Zero’s true BC were to be made public and got the media exposure it demands (tough road, I know but even Clinton’s well assumed infidelity got massive verification from the MSM once Monicagate got rolling)the public heat will grow! If it shows he lied about his circumstances at birth, his parentage or his country of birth he won’t be able to continue functioning as POTUS. If he is shown to have lied about his nationality (or told the truth in the case of non-natural-born status)to gain favorable access to America’s educational system his days will be filled with depositions, explainations and legal challenges to his very presidency.

[abenaki]

“Null and Void”, anyone....

[CommerceComet]

My opinion is that he was born in Hawaii but his father is Frank Davis the Communist.

If the information on the birth certificate is embarrassing only to Obama and he suppressed the information, then both he and the Democrat Party who should have asked these questions long ago will be hurt in the next election cycle.

However, if the information is only embarrassing to his mother and he suppressed the information, Obama will come out smelling like a rose. If the father is listed as unknown, Obama could claim that he withheld the information, at tremendous political cost, in order to protect his mother's reputation. I hate to say it but such an action in those circumstances would be an honorable action.