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louisiana; dash cam shows police choke man to death for drugs in his mouth july 11 2009?
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Posted on 07/16/2009 2:19:48 PM PDT by LibWhacker

VIDEO only


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: choke; dashcam; death; drugs; leo; louisiana; mouth; police; wod
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To: Neidermeyer
The missing video beginning at 04:24:20 when it restarts shows the cop walking from the trunk area of the car ,, WHERE THE VIDEO RECORDER IS LOCATED ... the youtube poster did not edit this ,, the cops at the scene deleted video or stopped recording.

That edit is of about ten seconds of action and occurs after additional officers have arrived. The edit I referred to previously is the one which occurs at approximately 2:32 into the YouTube video (the time on the video itself is 04:19:23). At this point there is still only one officer present and there are two full minutes of action missing. This is a different edit from the one you mention.

121 posted on 07/16/2009 4:57:20 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: LibWhacker

Gosh when did drug possesion become a punishable by death crime?


122 posted on 07/16/2009 5:02:42 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: dragnet2
That is my position I don't measure fighting by school boy standards, when a cop is arresting you and you try to fight your way out of it using your shoulders, elbows or any physical action against a cop that is formally handcuffing you, then it is a fight.

This here may explain why the guy crossed over into the dangerous world of resisting arrest and assaulting an officer. The man seems to have been in the last throes of the doper deterioration when the arrests are starting to come one after the other.

Deputies previously had arrested Stogner eight times since December 2007 for drug-related issues, Ard said. The most recent arrest was last week.

123 posted on 07/16/2009 5:04:43 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Snurple

That was my first thought too. Right after he swallows the drugs the cop should have cuffed him and driven to the emergency room for “drugs extraction.”


124 posted on 07/16/2009 5:10:38 PM PDT by oldvike
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To: rogue yam

Seems like they might have thought that they had backed up to and overwrote the data/video at the earlier timestamp you noted.

I have played with one of those systems before .. on your typical install you run a power feed from the battery to self resetting circuit breakers under the hood and then back to the equipment in the trunk where you have a distribution panel with either cb’s or fuses for the radios and video etc. ,,, on the system I played with disconnecting power by pulling a fuse would result in a few minutes of bootup time ,,, you can always just say a circuit breaker reset and there would be no way to prove or disprove that ... the short 10 second loss I saw could only be from playing with the controls.


125 posted on 07/16/2009 5:15:33 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: ansel12

Maybe you can explain why video was deleted?


126 posted on 07/16/2009 5:20:34 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: familyop

“...most of the bikers nowadays are gettin’ kinda old, and so fat..”

I see you noticed that, too. The cops are getting fat, welfare mommas are getting fat, ATF is getting fat, Congress is getting fat, and I’m still svelte and sneaky enough to hide behind a tree, jump out and yell “Boo!” causing heart attacks in fat cops, fat welfare mommas, fat ATF thugs and fat congresscritters.

If the job paid anything, I’d add it to my dilettante list.


127 posted on 07/16/2009 5:26:51 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: ansel12
Well, at least you admitted the dead overweight guy never threw one single punch....Were getting somewhere now.

The man seems to have been in the last throes of the doper deterioration when the arrests are starting to come one after the other.

I have no idea what this means, or how it relates to this guy dying.

Deputies previously had arrested Stogner eight times since December 2007 for drug-related issues, Ard said. The most recent arrest was last week.

No doubt this guy was probably a drug user, and was likely guilty of simple possession of a very small amount of a drug.

Of course this is not the issue here in regards to this specific incident.

128 posted on 07/16/2009 5:27:17 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Neidermeyer

Why should I, I have been pretty clear on how narrow my focus is in regards to my complaint about the title of this thread.


129 posted on 07/16/2009 5:28:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: dragnet2
Well, at least you admitted the dead overweight guy never threw one single punch....Were getting somewhere now.

You aren't even reading these posts are you? Look at post 23.

130 posted on 07/16/2009 5:30:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: dragnet2
You read this and you can't figure out what I was saying?

"This here may explain why the guy crossed over into the dangerous world of resisting arrest and assaulting an officer. The man seems to have been in the last throes of the doper deterioration when the arrests are starting to come one after the other."

Deputies previously had arrested Stogner eight times since December 2007 for drug-related issues, Ard said. The most recent arrest was last week.

131 posted on 07/16/2009 5:34:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
Deputies previously had arrested Stogner eight times since December 2007 for drug-related issues, Ard said. The most recent arrest was last week.

By the way, even though this has nothing to do with this incident or his death, it just goes to show you that cities counties are not interested in stopping drugs or drug use...Nor are they interested in really legitimately helping people (They are Americans with problems after all-not the enemy) with drug problems.

The war on drugs has increased the size of police budgets at tax payer expense by hundreds of billions, and the lines of people forking over money to the courts across this country past 40 years due to drugs has made these cities and towns tens of hundreds of billions of dollars..

They have really created a major revenue industry here.

Locking people up and warehousing them in cages for drug use in really archaic, and very primitive and certainly does nothing to stop drugs or drug use. But it sure make the government at all levels BILLIONS, and contributes to government expansion.

Drug laws are great for property confiscation, fines, control, fees, court costs, and keeping people in the machine so to speak, hiring more judges, more DAs, attorneys, translators, those in the rehab industry, build more jails, prisons, contractors etc etc...

Let me ask ya, if this guy was so damn bad, why did they keep letting him out of jail?

I know why, do you?

132 posted on 07/16/2009 5:40:24 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: sergeantdave

LOL! ...well said. I got pretty fat a few years ago, and it felt like I was dyin’. ...had to do something about that and did (lotta exercise and heavier chores ever since).


133 posted on 07/16/2009 5:46:21 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: dragnet2

Yep, this is a doper thread alright, someone earlier tried to deny that but they were wrong.


134 posted on 07/16/2009 5:46:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
Yep, this is a doper thread alright, someone earlier tried to deny that but they were wrong.

Did I not already tell you I was 100 percent pro law enforcement?

BTW, you failed to answer the questions in #132

Give it a shot.

135 posted on 07/16/2009 5:49:25 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
Did I not already tell you I was 100 percent pro law enforcement?

Then you and I are different, and I'm not interested in the doper discussions.

136 posted on 07/16/2009 5:53:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

BTW, you failed to answer the questions in #132

Give it a shot.


137 posted on 07/16/2009 5:54:54 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: ansel12
Then you and I are different, and I'm not interested in the doper discussions.

How do you rationalize your above response given the fact I am not a doper?

138 posted on 07/16/2009 5:56:51 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: MEGoody

Some folks need killing, like that guy in North Western Washington that was killed over Weeds in his yard.
There has to be a better way, like a big net or something.


139 posted on 07/16/2009 6:05:27 PM PDT by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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To: dragnet2

Your comprehension is terrible, the simplest statements have to be explained and or repeated.

I don’t want to get into a doper discussion, a conversation about dope,or drug laws or anything else related to drugs.

I did not call you a doper, I said that I do not want to get into a doper discussion.


140 posted on 07/16/2009 6:16:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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