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Firefighters to Senatos: ‘We Were Devastated’ (Sotomayor Skates on Racist Decision)
CQPOLITICS ^ | July 16, 2009 – 5:42 p.m. | By Seth Stern, CQ Staff

Posted on 07/16/2009 3:12:38 PM PDT by Syncro

CQ TODAY ONLINE NEWS
July 16, 2009 – 5:42 p.m.

Firefighters to Senatos: ‘We Were Devastated’

By Seth Stern, CQ Staff

Two firefighters whose reverse discrimination claim was rejected by Sonia Sotomayor criticized her handling of the sensitive case on Thursday.

“Americans have the right to go into our federal courts and have their cases judged based on the Constitution and our laws, not on politics and personal feelings,” said Frank Ricci, the lead plaintiff in the case, Ricci v. DeStefano, at Sotomayor’s Supreme Court confirmation hearing.

Ricci was joined at the Senate Judiciary Committee witness table by Ben Vargas, both whom scored high on a New Haven, Conn., firefighters’ promotion exam that was later rejected out of concern it might prompt lawsuits by lower-scoring minorities.

The three-judge appellate court ruling in which Sotomayor took part upheld the city’s action, but in a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court said the city was wrong to have thrown out the exam results.

Vargas echoed concerns raised by Republican senators about why Sotomayor’s panel issued a short, unsigned opinion rather than explaining its reasoning more fully.

“I expected Lady Justice with the blindfolds on and a reasoned opinion from a federal court of appeals, telling me, my fellow plaintiffs and the public what the court’s view on the law was and do it in an open and transparent way,” Vargas said. “Instead, we were devastated to see a one-paragraph unpublished order summarily dismissing our case and indeed even the notion that we had presented important legal issues to that court of appeals.”

Sotomayor said Wednesday she and her fellow panelists of the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals believed the 78-page decision issued by a federal trial court in the case “adequately explained the questions that the Supreme Court addressed and reviewed.”

“Not every case requires a long opinion if a district court opinion has been clear and thorough on an issue,” Sotomayor said.

That answer didn’t satisfy Orrin G. Hatch , R-Utah, who said just before the firefighters’ testimony that the Ricci case was “the one thing that really bothered me” about Sotomayor’s record.

“They wanted to sweep it under the rug,” Hatch said.

Ricci did not mention Sotomayor by name while Vargas prefaced his comments about the case by saying, ““I am Hispanic and proud of the heritage and background that Judge Sotomayor and I share, and I congratulate Judge Sotomayor on her nomination.”

Bar Association Rating

Ricci and Vargas are among 31 outside witnesses who were schedule to testify during the final portion of the hearing, now in its fourth day. Two representatives of the American Bar Association led off with an explanation of the organization’s highest rating for Sotomayor.



TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 111th; firefighters; hearings; racist; reverseracism; ricci; sotomayor
Senators had just dismissed Sotomayor after four days of testimony and so the judge was not in the room when the firefighters testified.

So she wasn't in the room when the firefighters testified.

“I expected Lady Justice with the blindfolds on and a reasoned opinion from a federal court of appeals, telling me, my fellow plaintiffs and the public what the court’s view on the law was and do it in an open and transparent way,” Vargas said. “Instead, we were devastated to see a one-paragraph unpublished order summarily dismissing our case and indeed even the notion that we had presented important legal issues to that court of appeals.”

Sotomayor said Wednesday she and her fellow panelists of the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals believed the 78-page decision issued by a federal trial court in the case “adequately explained the questions that the Supreme Court addressed and reviewed.”

“Not every case requires a long opinion if a district court opinion has been clear and thorough on an issue,” Sotomayor said.

That answer didn’t satisfy Orrin G. Hatch , R-Utah, who said just before the firefighters’ testimony that the Ricci case was “the one thing that really bothered me” about Sotomayor’s record.

I read elsewhere that Sotomayor said she made her decision because there was no precedent to rule in their favor.

Well, she could have made one if she didn't want to block white (and one Hispanic) firefighters just because no blacks passed the test.

Instead the Supreme Court had to reverse her decision.

And now she is going to be on the Supreme court?

Outrageous!

1 posted on 07/16/2009 3:12:38 PM PDT by Syncro
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Hatch, R-Utah, said just before the firefighters’ testimony that the Ricci case was “the one thing that really bothered me” about Sotomayor’s record.
Come on Orin, that's all that bothered you?
2 posted on 07/16/2009 3:14:46 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Syncro

3 posted on 07/16/2009 3:15:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A new Dark Ages made all the more terrible and prolonged by the sinister powers of science.")
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BTW, Senatos is the way the article is titled at the source.

: > )

4 posted on 07/16/2009 3:17:04 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Syncro

As Ben Vargas was bravely giving testimony in the pit of VIPERS, that smug, leaky leahy was so rudely - HE WAS NOT EVEN MAN ENOUGH TO LISTEN TO MR. VARGAS TESTIMONY, HE WAS READING AND SHUFFLING PAPERS!!!!!!!/Just Asking - seoul62.......


5 posted on 07/16/2009 3:19:55 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: seoul62

Leahy is evil. He has engaged in politically motivated assassination and murders.


6 posted on 07/16/2009 3:24:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Syncro
Here is the equation:

Gays > Blacks > Hispanics > Whites > Christians

7 posted on 07/16/2009 3:26:38 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: seoul62

Why should he or any other Democrat actually pay attention to the working man that they so desperately tell us they care about. You know, like Joe the Plumber.


8 posted on 07/16/2009 3:27:27 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: Syncro

Of course she does. Reform Congress. Relieve them of their jobs and their pensions.


9 posted on 07/16/2009 3:33:43 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Syncro
NNNOOOOOOOO to sotomayor.

Call, email, fax the senators on the committee.

U. S. Senate

10 posted on 07/16/2009 3:41:41 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: muawiyah

The thing was MR. VARGAS WAS A LATINO, LIKE SOTOMAYOR, I was taken back by that. I was under the impression that this case was only about WHITE FIREFIGHTERS!!!!!!!! Then again, the drivebys are worse than the PROPOGANDA MACHINE OF THE ORIGINAL DEAR LEADER: KIM JONG IL, they are toad-lackeys for their favorites in power. For this drama unfolding, I remember the scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark: when they open the Ark of the Covenant and the Spirits coming flying out of the Covenant, well we all know what happens next./Just Asking - seoul62.........


11 posted on 07/16/2009 3:45:44 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: Syncro

In a nutshell, this case was decided on the basis of preventing outrage in certain protected groups.

Don’t do the right thing or there might be riots.

Kind of like how they are handling Zero’s eligibility and other issues.


12 posted on 07/16/2009 3:46:08 PM PDT by Califreak (I can't answer that in the abstract)
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To: Syncro

Why do they go through the process already? Oh yeah, that’s right, so they appear as though they are following the Constitution so they can accept someone to the SC who clearly has disavowed her oath to the Constitution. What a zoo!! This bag was in before any hearing ever took place.


13 posted on 07/16/2009 3:47:10 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Syncro
Ricci was joined at the Senate Judiciary Committee witness table by Ben Vargas, both whom scored high on a New Haven, Conn., firefighters’ promotion exam that was later rejected out of concern it might prompt lawsuits by lower-scoring minorities.

What the effing Hell is going on here?

Aren't the names Ricci and Vargas Latin names? But they were too "white" for so-called "judge"?

Is there anyone left in the beltway who has any brains, wisdom, or balls, or some combination thereof?

14 posted on 07/16/2009 3:47:20 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Syncro
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15 posted on 07/16/2009 3:52:00 PM PDT by kara2008 (Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem)
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To: Syncro

16 posted on 07/16/2009 3:53:17 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you cannot be a good example you can serve as horrible warning - like Obama.)
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To: 2banana
Gays > Blacks > Hispanics > Whites > Christians

Excuse me, but I believe polar bears currently come before Whites and Christians. (Thanks to PETA.)

17 posted on 07/16/2009 3:56:45 PM PDT by Faith
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To: Iron Munro

FANTASTIC cartoon.


18 posted on 07/16/2009 4:10:26 PM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: Syncro; potlatch; devolve; nutmeg; NordP; DrDeb; ohioWfan; Wolfstar; MeekMom; MeekOneGOP; xzins; ...

Repost:

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..she is likely to say that her judicial record shows no hint of bias or activism and no evidence of unfairness or tilting the scales in favor of minority groups...........

That’s a laugh. She could not be more biased when it comes to judging her own. Read on.

By Ann Coulter
HUMAN EVENTS-—Vol. 53 Issue 39, p 11,
17 OCTOBER 1997
PROBABLE CAUSE FOR REJECTING JUDGE SOTOMAYOR (Sotomayor was then on the Clinton’s fast track to the Supreme Court)

SOTOMAYOR’S ACTUAL WORDS FROM THE BENCH, SENTENCING ADMITTED DRUG DEALER Louis Gomez (a noncitizen), who pleaded guilty to dealing cocaine:

“[I]t is in some respects a great tragedy for our country that instead of permitting you to serve a lesser sentence and rejoin your family at an earlier time I am required by law to give you the statutory minimum. ...

[W]e all understand that you were in part a victim of the economic necessities of our society, unfortunately there are laws that I must impose.

“Louis Gomez, yours is the tragedy of our laws and the greatest one that I know. ... the one our congressmen never thought about and don’t think about. ...

“It is no comfort to you for me to say that I am deeply, personally sorry about the sentence that I must impose, because the law requires me to do so. The only statement I can make is this is one more example of an abomination being committed before our sight. You do not deserve this, sir.”


Nelson Castellanos was arrested in NYC outside his Harlem apartment, charged with conspiracy to distribute cocaine. He was holding his keys and a white shopping bag containing about $10,000, mostly in $1 and $20 bills.

That evening, pursuant to a warrant, DEA personnel searched his apartment and found over 1,200 grams of cocaine, six live rounds of ammunition, a .44 caliber revolver and incriminating notebooks.

All this evidence was thrown out by District Court Judge Sonia Sotomayor on the grounds that the DEA agents had not provided the magistrate with probable cause to search Castellanos’s apartment.

1 posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:36:47 PM by Liz

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19 posted on 07/16/2009 4:10:56 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Iron Munro
LOLOL!

The Soda Mayor will get singed!

20 posted on 07/16/2009 4:12:53 PM PDT by Syncro
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21 posted on 07/16/2009 4:24:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: FlyVet
Lot of people have "Latin Names" and don't know it. For example "Smit", "Smith", "Smythe" and so forth. They're all derived from "Schmei de" ~ which can be translated directly from the Ladino as "smear on", "make of", "paint on", etc.

Oh, you don't know Ladino? Well, that was the Language of the Jews in Medieval Spain. They were the industrial class who manufactured everything. Arabs, Berbers, Galicians, Cornish, and other Whites were soldiers, gentlemen or worked on farms in "honorable" occupations as such labor was called.

Actually, all those old boys with "Schmid" in their name have exceedingly Jewish/Hispanic names ~ (even if most of them are Catholics or Lutherans living in Germany).

You jus' never know what you can find you turn up enough rocks.

Sotomayor is a good example of what happens when you lard on enough history. It looks fairly "Hispanic", but it comes from a time when the Cornish were busy conquering the North Spanish Coast (7th/8th century) and preparing to drive back the Moslems.

Sure enough the best Cornish/Spanish translator on the net informs us that the root word "Mayor" means "grove" in both Spanish and Cornish, which is so remarkable it stongly suggests it's a Celtic loan word carried into Spanish by conquering nobles back in the formative period. And a "Soto"? Well, the "So" is clearly derivative of "sa" meaning a flag held to assist a line of mounted men prepare for a charge, and with a "T" added it means Saxon knight (or something along that line, and we are talking early Medieval Cornish, not a modern language at all).

Turns out Sotomayor isn't even Spanish ~ rather, it's more like a noble title imported from England before there was an England.

22 posted on 07/16/2009 4:33:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Iron Munro

Good one!


23 posted on 07/16/2009 4:37:22 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: muawiyah

Sotomayor - from place names in Pontevedra, Galicia and Orense, Spain. Literally means - thicket/grove large.


24 posted on 07/16/2009 4:44:06 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: muawiyah
Thanks for the interesting lesson. You must be one of those edumacated guys.

I'd always thought of names like Smith or Smythe as English names. But come think of it there's that actor named Jimmy Smits, who is obviously a Latin type.

Turns out Sotomayor isn't even Spanish ~ rather, it's more like a noble title imported from England before there was an England.

That's doubly interesting. I'd had a hunch that her name sounded more German than Hispanic, or even maybe a Euro/Asian combo of some kind, but now you say English.

I learn something new every day on this site.

25 posted on 07/16/2009 4:45:31 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: FlyVet
Actually a Brythonic form ~ the Cornish came from Brittain. The place got renamed "England" after it was taken over by the Anglo-Saxons.

We had a gentleman at work whose brother had gotten into Hispanic genealogy ~ and his last name was a full Gaelic sentence ~ took me a month to figure it out. The brother was very happy to hear the news.

26 posted on 07/16/2009 4:59:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Gaelic. My Grandfather, my hero, could speak some Gaelic, although he was the Quiet Man, who wasn't inclined to talk much, but when he did, you listened. I miss him.

When I was in tech school years ago, I had a classmate whose last name was Micolavonfurstenrecht. No kidding. His name tag was simply "Micola", however, because he used to joke that he'd have to run the tag along his sleeve to get it right. He was a doofy, funny guy who came from a long line of royalty.

27 posted on 07/16/2009 5:07:55 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Churchillspirit

True, but I went back to a time when the term “mayor” was being imported into Iberia. Obviously there were going to be a lot of place names pop up using Mayor if the guys doing the importing won ~ and they did ~ because in the end ElAndaluz was converted from a Moslem kingdom to a Christian kingdom (took a long time though ~ 700 years or thereabouts).


28 posted on 07/16/2009 5:08:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: FlyVet

Just recently I discovered that the Bourbon “family”(the Kings of France and such) actually used other titles as surnames abroad. Thought that was interesting. You can imagine the enemies the Bourbons made ~


29 posted on 07/16/2009 5:12:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I wonder who else had multiple identities although it would take a racist to state that fact unless a republican were the one with multiple identities if so ok but I do run on. 0bama is
beyond racism. Reverse racism is going to be the norm for this adminstration.


30 posted on 07/16/2009 5:22:06 PM PDT by Boardwalk (W)
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To: muawiyah

“He has engaged in politically motivated assassination and murders.”

As much as I dislike Leahy, he hasn’t gone that far, has he?


31 posted on 07/16/2009 6:14:18 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: muawiyah

A statement like that needs a little proof.


32 posted on 07/16/2009 6:19:42 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: 2banana

Your chart is outdated. The current order is:

Global Warming > Gays > Terrorists > (Illegal) Hispanics > Blacks > Pork > Muslims > Whites > Asians > Christians


33 posted on 07/16/2009 6:33:41 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Syncro

Ricci is an Italian name, pronounced “REE-chee”, meaning “the rich.” No wonder she didn’t like him.


34 posted on 07/16/2009 6:38:49 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( Jim Thompson for President.)
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To: Syncro

The 35+ year war against White males continues.


35 posted on 07/16/2009 6:56:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: Iron Munro

PERFECT!


36 posted on 07/16/2009 7:55:39 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: muawiyah

“He has engaged in politically motivated assassination and murders.”

Say what??? Please drop me a freepmail and explain this to me! Thanks in advance.


37 posted on 07/16/2009 9:12:00 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: FlyVet
I had a buddy who's last name was Kuechenmeister. We use to call him Kuech, but his last name was German and as far as he could learn was it meant master of the kitchen or master of the cookie. Funny thing was he was adopted and he looked just like sitting bull.
38 posted on 07/16/2009 10:11:01 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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To: Syncro

Who says crime doesn’t pay?

In 2009, it lands you in high government office. LOL!


39 posted on 07/16/2009 11:12:53 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: EEDUDE
"Assassination" is the only way one of his actions can be explained. (See: http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/jul/06/jeffry-gardner-no-big-deal/ )

Basically Leahy as Vice Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee "leaked information" that led to the killing of an "asset" in Egypt.

Someone who's a Chairman or Vice Chairman of any committee must be presumed to be fully aware of the consequences of information made available by that committee ~

40 posted on 07/17/2009 5:09:37 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Terpfen

To start your own research on the matter try: http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/jul/06/jeffry-gardner-no-big-deal/


41 posted on 07/17/2009 5:10:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: popdonnelly
Yes, he's gone that far. Not slaked with coming into Congress just in time to vote for Genocide in Viet Nam, Leahy tried his hand at outing our agents and assets overseas.

Start your research at: http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/jul/06/jeffry-gardner-no-big-deal/

42 posted on 07/17/2009 5:11:59 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Thanks for the explanation.


43 posted on 07/17/2009 5:14:28 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: EEDUDE
I hope that information helped you to understand why so many of us are disgusted at Leahy's presence outside a prison.

You'd better believe Michelle Obama doesn't let him into their family quarters either ~

44 posted on 07/17/2009 5:23:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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